Re: Advertising xmpp

On Fri, January 4, 2008 14:39, Sander Devrieze wrote:
> 2008/1/4, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeterstpeter.im>:
>> In my experience, while a lot of open-source
advocates do support open
>> standards like XMPP or Ogg or OOXML, many others
are perfectly happy to
>> use closed protocols and formats like AIM/MSN/Yahoo
or MP3 or .doc, as
>> long as the source code for their application is
free/open.
>>
>> Linux distros already include multi-protocol IM
clients (e.g., on KDE
>> there's Kopete, on Ubuntu probably Pidgin) and
those clients support
>> XMPP, so it's not as if those distros are ignoring
Jabber technologies,
>> but they don't particularly emphasize such support
(e.g., by making it
>> easy for a user to get an account at a Jabber
service). So maybe that's
>> one area we could focus on.
>
> I believe I heard somewhere Canonical wants to
integrate XMPP more
> tight in Launchpad and Ubuntu...

What I'm thinking of, is when the Ubuntu installation is
finished,
and you're setting up a user account, it gives you the
option to
register an XMPP account with a Ubuntu server.

The desktop could then include links to MUC forums for
technical
support and general chat. A quick search found the
following:

h
ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCollaborationWithJabber

There's some technical considerations raised (e.g., can MUC
support
hundreds of users?). That page hasn't been touched in over
a
year, so no idea how valid the concerns still are. I had
MUC
running once a couple of years back, but never had more
than
three users.

The biggest issue would be the non-technical one of
splitting
support between IRC and XMPP.

>> > I've never really used the Mac, so no idea if
Apple have their
>> > own standard.
>>
>> Apple's iChat client supports both XMPP (they call
it "Jabber"!) and AOL
>> Instant Messenger.
>
> ...with some closed extensions for voice and video
chat.

Haven't Google done something similar? Or did they open
their extensions?

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Sam.                      xmpp:samglendale.org.uk


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2008/1/4, Samuel Penn <samglendale.org.uk>:
> What I'm thinking of, is when the Ubuntu installation
is finished,
> and you're setting up a user account, it gives you the
option to
> register an XMPP account with a Ubuntu server.
>
> The desktop could then include links to MUC forums for
technical
> support and general chat. A quick search found the
following:

Related: Mozilla recently created an XMPP based support
system for
Firefox...if they integrate this support system into future
Firefox
releases... B-)

> Haven't Google done something similar? Or did they
open
> their extensions?

AFAIK Google's extensions are at least documented. But they
also do
not yet support the latest Jingle spec versions.

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On Friday 04 January 2008, Samuel Penn wrote:
> The biggest issue would be the non-technical one of
splitting
> support between IRC and XMPP.

There's no reason an IRC network can't support the newer
XMPP MUC standard as 
well.

> >> Apple's iChat client supports both XMPP (they
call it "Jabber"!) and AOL
> >> Instant Messenger.
> >
> > ...with some closed extensions for voice and video
chat.
>
> Haven't Google done something similar? Or did they
open
> their extensions?

Their extensions have been open from day 1, I think.
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