New Developer - No KDevelop-project within Ark

Hi Fabian,

On Monday 18 June 2007, Fabian Korak wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a developer who currently got interested in QT, and
thus I'm trying to
> help KDE while improving my skill.

Excellent!

> where I got some easy-to-develop ideas of some features
- Ark. But it
> appears Ark has hardly been touched the last few years,
and thus has no
> KDevelop-Project.

CMake, the tool used for KDE4's build framework, can,
according to this [1] 
generate KDevelop project files

> I was quite puzzled as where to post this, but this is
neither a bug nor a
> feature, but not serious enough for the
developers-mailing list, so I
> posted it here.

I think it is OK on this list, since it is about getting
started with KDE 
development, and it would also be OK on kde-devel.

Cheers,
Kevin

[1] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdevelop&m=10999394880
7603&w=2
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On Monday 18 June 2007, Fabian Korak wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a developer who currently got interested in QT, and
thus I'm trying to
> help KDE while improving my skill.After building the
latest SVN's, I
> thought I could get a better view of KDE by playing
with some sources,
> maybe improving something here and there. So I wanted
to start with a app
> where I got some easy-to-develop ideas of some features
- Ark. But it

cool =))

> appears Ark has hardly been touched the last few years,
and thus has no
> KDevelop-Project.

many of the developers do not use an IDE and just work
directly from the 
command line and text editors. so actually very few apps in
kde's svn have 
kdevelop projects for them, including very actively
maintained ones =)

> However the guide I'm using 
> (http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_
up_KDE_4_for_development)
> wants a KDevelop-Project. I know that I propably could
have made one
> myself, importing all stuff in the directory, however
this needs to be
> commited to the SVN so I'm asking if someone of the
developers is willing
> to do that.

actually, you probably want to get in touch with the
maintainer of ark (i've 
CC'd him here), Henrique.

he's actively working on ark in a branch in svn; i see 2
commits today 
actually... the branch is at
branches/work/libarchive-based-ark/

Henrique: perhaps you could tag up with Fabian here on ark?
also ... seeing as 
we're getting closer to 4.0 here, what the status of merging
your branch back 
into trunk?

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El Lunes, 18 de Junio de 2007, Aaron J. Seigo escribió:

> i've CC'd him

It's nice to know that not only in Spanish we add strange
technical words to 
our vocabulary  XD



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Hi!

On Mon 18 Jun 2007 16:56, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > appears Ark has hardly been touched the last few
years, and thus has no
> > KDevelop-Project.
>
> many of the developers do not use an IDE and just work
directly from the
> command line and text editors. so actually very few
apps in kde's svn
> have kdevelop projects for them, including very
actively maintained ones
> =)

Yep, I tend to use Vim, mostly because of
kdesdk/scripts/kde-devel-vim.vim.


> > However the guide I'm using
> > (http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_
up_KDE_4_for_development)
> > wants a KDevelop-Project. I know that I propably
could have made one
> > myself, importing all stuff in the directory,
however this needs to be
> > commited to the SVN so I'm asking if someone of
the developers is
> > willing to do that.
>
> actually, you probably want to get in touch with the
maintainer of ark
> (i've CC'd him here), Henrique.
> 
> he's actively working on ark in a branch in svn; i see
2 commits today
> actually... the branch is at
branches/work/libarchive-based-ark/

The name of the branch is not really good, BTW. I couldn't
find a better 
name yet, so I'll probably either keep the name or rename it
to something 
semi-meaningless such as ark-kerfuffle.

> Henrique: perhaps you could tag up with Fabian here on
ark? also ...
> seeing as we're getting closer to 4.0 here, what the
status of merging
> your branch back into trunk?

The code is far from finished. Unless a miracle happens, I
won't be able to 
finish it before beta 1. However, if I read the release plan
correctly I 
can still merge the branch up to the message freeze on July
20. My plan was 
to merge it around July 9.

As for the reason for the branch: Since a lot of time ago,
the idea was to 
make Ark use KIOSlaves. Unfortunately, I had some problems
with ioslaves 
last time I tried, and ended up never doing that (if I
recall correctly, 
some of the problems were implementing mkdir for archive
types that didn't 
support empty directories, and optimizing extraction of a
large number of 
files from the same archive). Then, real life got in the
way, and I had 
very little free-time in the last months, most of which was
consumed by 
playing Zelda: Twilight Princess, so Ark was in really bad
shape for KDE4.

So, I decided to fix things a little, and thus the branch. I
was afraid of 
not being able to finish a ioslave-based implementation in
time, so I opted 
to postpone that and instead have a simpler interface that
is somewhat 
similar to the slaves, so that porting in the future might
not be so 
difficult. 

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