Openoffice menus and opensymbols fonts

On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 13:20:47 +0200, Grégoire Druant
wrote:
> Le mercredi 21 juin 2006 22:26, Rene Engelhard a
écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Grégoire Druant wrote:
> > > If I set opensymbol font as my menu font in
kcontrol, and that's the font
> > > I use, all the characters in the openoffice
menus are displayed as some
> > > small rectangles.
> >
> > and WTF do you want to use OpenSymbol as menu
font?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rene
> 
> And why couldn't I use this font ?

If you install the package "fontforge" you can
have a closer look at 
the opensymbol font:

fontforge /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/opens___.ttf

and compare it to a normal font, for example if you have the
package
"ttf-bitstream-vera" installed:

fontforge
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/Vera.ttf

You will see that opensymbol does not even encode anything
for normal
letters, so it is totally unsuitable as a menu font. I would
guess that
that is the reason for the rectangles: They are displayed if
a character
is not defined in the selected font.

> I have allways done so and it used to work, but now it
doesn't work anymore in 
> openoffice with the kde integration package. I think
that's weird, and 
> weirder if you know that openoffice depends on
ttf-opensymbol.

Maybe the older versions of the KDE integration package had
a bug and
did not actually display the menus in the font that you
selected. Now
the bug could be fixed and you would be seeing the ugly face
of
opensymbol for the first time. Another explanation could be
that KDE
automatically switches to another font if it cannot find
characters for
"abc...", and that this mechanism is now broken
in the
openoffice.org-kde package.

-- 
Regards,
          Florian

Le jeudi 22 juin 2006 14:11, Florian Kulzer a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 13:20:47 +0200, Grégoire Druant
wrote:
> > Le mercredi 21 juin 2006 22:26, Rene Engelhard a
écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Grégoire Druant wrote:
> > > > If I set opensymbol font as my menu font
in kcontrol, and that's the
> > > > font I use, all the characters in the
openoffice menus are displayed
> > > > as some small rectangles.
> > >
> > > and WTF do you want to use OpenSymbol as menu
font?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rene
> >
> > And why couldn't I use this font ?
>
> If you install the package "fontforge" you
can have a closer look at
> the opensymbol font:
>
> fontforge
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/opens___.ttf
>
> and compare it to a normal font, for example if you
have the package
> "ttf-bitstream-vera" installed:
>
> fontforge
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/Vera.ttf
>
> You will see that opensymbol does not even encode
anything for normal
> letters, so it is totally unsuitable as a menu font. I
would guess that
> that is the reason for the rectangles: They are
displayed if a character
> is not defined in the selected font.
>
> > I have allways done so and it used to work, but
now it doesn't work
> > anymore in openoffice with the kde integration
package. I think that's
> > weird, and weirder if you know that openoffice
depends on ttf-opensymbol.
>
> Maybe the older versions of the KDE integration package
had a bug and
> did not actually display the menus in the font that you
selected. Now
> the bug could be fixed and you would be seeing the ugly
face of
> opensymbol for the first time. Another explanation
could be that KDE
> automatically switches to another font if it cannot
find characters for
> "abc...", and that this mechanism is now
broken in the
> openoffice.org-kde package.

Ok, thanks for your explanations.

I've set my menu fonts to "Lohit indi 11",
which wasn't in the list but was 
the menu font for the root account (don't ask me why root
has a .kde dir).

This font look really close to opensymbol, and that work
with it.

Thanks and regards