Remarks on 3.3.93

Hello, all.

I installed the 3.3.93 and have the following questions:

1. In IDEAl mode kdevelop always starts on 1/4 of the
screen. Why?
2. is it possible for buttons of plugins to remember their
position (side)? I 
want to have these buttons on the other sides of the screen
then they are 
positioned by default. Each time I load the project, I need
to place them to 
the "correct" sides, but then they
"forget" their postions...
3. Yes, the new code completion is MUCH MUCH better! Really
many thanks!
4. A bit more complicated issue - debugger.
	I have the .gdbinit file which has macro to load the
application (via serial 
line) into the target. While loading, the macro produces
some output 
(printfs...). 
	Now, if .gdbinit file calls this macro by itself, I do not
see macro's output 
at all, I am just waiting and then gdb's console window
becomes unlocked 
(active) without any info.
	But if I call the macro manually, from the gdb console
enter dialog, I can 
see all the output correctly. 
	Is it possible to see it always?
5. While in debugger - any attempt to step into any function
(in another file, 
may be this is importand?) leads to the debugger buttons
unavailable in my 
case. Plane gdb and 3.3.5 has no such problem.

Hope this helps...

-- 
Leon

P.S. Once again, I turn to mail list maintainers - please,
provide some 
announcement mechanism to inform people about the new
versions, releases...
I do not want to wait till "yum update" tell me
about upgrades...

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On Monday 11 December 2006 15:54, Leon Pollak wrote:
> P.S. Once again, I turn to mail list maintainers -
please, provide some
> announcement mechanism to inform people about the new
versions, releases...
> I do not want to wait till "yum update" tell
me about upgrades...

No problem you will be informed once 3.4 RC2 gets released.

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Webmaster
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On 11.12.06 16:54:20, Leon Pollak wrote:
> I installed the 3.3.93 and have the following
questions:

I suggest to fetch the svn version, there have been numerous
bugfixes
since then. See
http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filena
me=3.4/branches_compiling.html
for instructions.

> 1. In IDEAl mode kdevelop always starts on 1/4 of the
screen. Why?

Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui mode) is
totally
broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it doesn't have all
features of
IDEAl, but is much less broken.

> 2. is it possible for buttons of plugins to remember
their position (side)? I 
> want to have these buttons on the other sides of the
screen then they are 
> positioned by default. Each time I load the project, I
need to place them to 
> the "correct" sides, but then they
"forget" their postions...

If this doesn't work, its probably also KMDI.

> 4. A bit more complicated issue - debugger.

 I
suggest to send the debugger problems to kdevelop-devel. Not
all
developers read this list.

> 5. While in debugger - any attempt to step into any
function (in another file, 
> may be this is importand?) leads to the debugger
buttons unavailable in my 
> case. Plane gdb and 3.3.5 has no such problem.

Please add the gdb version and the output from kdevelop to
your mail.
Try to reduce the amount of output by running kdebugdialog
and deselect
all, except kdevelop (debugger)

Andreas
 
> P.S. Once again, I turn to mail list maintainers -
please, provide some 
> announcement mechanism to inform people about the new
versions, releases...
> I do not want to wait till "yum update" tell
me about upgrades...

There's an anouncement on kdevelop.org for new releases. The
next
release will be 3.4rc2. Its going to be tagged wednesday,
tarball
release depends on the speed of KDE ftp maintainers.

Andreas

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On 11.12.06 16:54:20, Leon Pollak wrote:
> I installed the 3.3.93 and have the following
questions:

I suggest to fetch the svn version, there have been numerous
bugfixes
since then. See
http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filena
me=3.4/branches_compiling.html
for instructions.

> 1. In IDEAl mode kdevelop always starts on 1/4 of the
screen. Why?

Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui mode) is
totally
broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it doesn't have all
features of
IDEAl, but is much less broken.

> 2. is it possible for buttons of plugins to remember
their position (side)? I 
> want to have these buttons on the other sides of the
screen then they are 
> positioned by default. Each time I load the project, I
need to place them to 
> the "correct" sides, but then they
"forget" their postions...

If this doesn't work, its probably also KMDI.

> 4. A bit more complicated issue - debugger.

 I
suggest to send the debugger problems to kdevelop-devel. Not
all
developers read this list.

> 5. While in debugger - any attempt to step into any
function (in another file, 
> may be this is importand?) leads to the debugger
buttons unavailable in my 
> case. Plane gdb and 3.3.5 has no such problem.

Please add the gdb version and the output from kdevelop to
your mail.
Try to reduce the amount of output by running kdebugdialog
and deselect
all, except kdevelop (debugger)

Andreas
 
> P.S. Once again, I turn to mail list maintainers -
please, provide some 
> announcement mechanism to inform people about the new
versions, releases...
> I do not want to wait till "yum update" tell
me about upgrades...

There's an anouncement on kdevelop.org for new releases. The
next
release will be 3.4rc2. Its going to be tagged wednesday,
tarball
release depends on the speed of KDE ftp maintainers.

Andreas

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On Monday 11 December 2006 21:06 IST, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui mode)
is totally
> broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it doesn't
have all features of
> IDEAl, but is much less broken.

True but there is one important reason i use the IDEAL mode.
As soon as i 
start the debugger, the variables view opens up and then
collapses itself 
when i stop debugging. This unfortunately is not the
behavior when in the 
simple mode. It's a handy feature! 
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Cheers!
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On Monday 11 December 2006 21:06 IST, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui mode)
is totally
> broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it doesn't
have all features of
> IDEAl, but is much less broken.

True but there is one important reason i use the IDEAL mode.
As soon as i 
start the debugger, the variables view opens up and then
collapses itself 
when i stop debugging. This unfortunately is not the
behavior when in the 
simple mode. It's a handy feature! 
-- 
Cheers!
kitts

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On 11.12.06 21:39:06, kitts wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 21:06 IST, Andreas Pakulat
wrote:
> > Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui
mode) is totally
> > broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it
doesn't have all features of
> > IDEAl, but is much less broken.
> 
> True but there is one important reason i use the IDEAL
mode. As soon as i 
> start the debugger, the variables view opens up and
then collapses itself 
> when i stop debugging. This unfortunately is not the
behavior when in the 
> simple mode. It's a handy feature! 

Hmm, it opens up here too. It just doesn't close
automatically and IIRC
teatime and adymo discussed that this is unfortunately
impossible with
Qt3 dock widgets.

But it doesn't really disturb me, because its just 1
shortcut to hit
(well twice), to close the view and the many bugs KMDI has
outweigh that
minor inconvience.

Andreas

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On 11.12.06 21:39:06, kitts wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 21:06 IST, Andreas Pakulat
wrote:
> > Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui
mode) is totally
> > broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it
doesn't have all features of
> > IDEAl, but is much less broken.
> 
> True but there is one important reason i use the IDEAL
mode. As soon as i 
> start the debugger, the variables view opens up and
then collapses itself 
> when i stop debugging. This unfortunately is not the
behavior when in the 
> simple mode. It's a handy feature! 

Hmm, it opens up here too. It just doesn't close
automatically and IIRC
teatime and adymo discussed that this is unfortunately
impossible with
Qt3 dock widgets.

But it doesn't really disturb me, because its just 1
shortcut to hit
(well twice), to close the view and the many bugs KMDI has
outweigh that
minor inconvience.

Andreas

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On Monday 11 December 2006 19:09, kitts wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 21:06 IST, Andreas Pakulat
wrote:
> > Because KMDI (the underlying library for that ui
mode) is totally
> > broken. Check out the Simple IDEAl mode, it
doesn't have all features of
> > IDEAl, but is much less broken.
> 
> True but there is one important reason i use the IDEAL
mode. As soon as i 
> start the debugger, the variables view opens up and
then collapses itself 
> when i stop debugging. This unfortunately is not the
behavior when in the 
> simple mode. It's a handy feature! 

And unfortunately, the auto-hide feature was removed on SVN
HEAD, because
with it, if you move variables window to bottom of the
window, it will then reappear
on the left edge, due to bugs in KMDI.

In fact, I'm not not sure which is more important --
auto-hide or keeping the position.

Hmm, I wonder why this auto-show and auto-hide does not work
in simple mode. Are raiseView
and lowerView implemented there? Alexander?

- Volodya


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On 11.12.06 19:23:57, Vladimir Prus wrote:
> Hmm, I wonder why this auto-show and auto-hide does not
work in simple mode. Are raiseView
> and lowerView implemented there? Alexander?

A quick grep seems to indicate that neither of the two is
implemented in
simple and I recall teatime and adymo discussed about this
on IRC.
Unfortunately I don't have a log at hand..

Andreas

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