KDevelop 3.4 beta 3 release date?

Hi,

Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be released?
As we get more 
into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't really like the
idea of spending 
anymore time on KDev 3.4. However, I'm not sure that
KDevelop 3.4 is ready 
for general public consumption now, since I've run into a
few crashes, an 
infinite loop of some sort in the new c++ stuff that chomped
all my memory, 
crashed my box and killed all my kittens, and a few other
bugs and 
regressions.

So, it really boils down to three questions. 

1. Do we want to continue on the path towards releasing
KDevelop 3.4?

2. Should we just start backporting things from the 3.4
branch during the 
feature unfreeze cycles in the KDE 3.5 branch instead?

3. When would be a good date to release KDevelop 3.4 beta 3
(assuming we 
actually want to release 3.4)?

Thanks for any input
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On Thursday 07 September 2006 07:32, Matt Rogers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be
released? As we
> get more into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't
really like the
> idea of spending anymore time on KDev 3.4. However,
I'm not sure that
> KDevelop 3.4 is ready for general public consumption
now, since I've
> run into a few crashes, an infinite loop of some sort
in the new c++
> stuff that chomped all my memory, crashed my box and
killed all my
> kittens, and a few other bugs and regressions.

Some showstoppers from my POV:
- debugger issues I posted (I will create bugreports for
them soon), 
mainly moving breakpoints and not showing QString for parent
classes
- autocompletion was very slow a week ago, I have to retest
it. Manual 
completion is OK

There are some other small problems, but the above ones are
regressions 
and this is why I consider showstoppers.

> So, it really boils down to three questions.
>
> 1. Do we want to continue on the path towards releasing
KDevelop 3.4?

There was quite some work done here and I think it's better
to use this 
one instead of backporting. Sure, bugfixes can be backported
if anyone 
cares about finding them... 

For the rest, I don't have an answer.

Andras
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On Thursday 07 September 2006 06:32, Matt Rogers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be
released?
beta 2 was only released yesterday (ftp mirror issues)

> As we get more 
> into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't really like
the idea of spending
> anymore time on KDev 3.4. However, I'm not sure that
KDevelop 3.4 is ready
> for general public consumption now, since I've run
into a few crashes, an
> infinite loop of some sort in the new c++ stuff that
chomped all my memory,
> crashed my box and killed all my kittens, and a few
other bugs and
> regressions.
KDevelop 3.4 was branched in October last year, it has 11
months of work.
So yes, I think we should release it.

> So, it really boils down to three questions.
>
> 1. Do we want to continue on the path towards releasing
KDevelop 3.4?
yes, IMHO.

> 2. Should we just start backporting things from the 3.4
branch during the
> feature unfreeze cycles in the KDE 3.5 branch instead?
I think there are too many differences, not a good idea.

> 3. When would be a good date to release KDevelop 3.4
beta 3 (assuming we
> actually want to release 3.4)?
Like Andras said, I also think that we should concentrate on
regressions, and 
once that it done, release it.


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Amilcar do Carmo Lucas wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2006 06:32, Matt Rogers wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be
released?
>>     
> beta 2 was only released yesterday (ftp mirror issues)
>
>   
>> As we get more 
>> into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't really
like the idea of spending
>> anymore time on KDev 3.4. However, I'm not sure
that KDevelop 3.4 is ready
>> for general public consumption now, since I've run
into a few crashes, an
>> infinite loop of some sort in the new c++ stuff
that chomped all my memory,
>> crashed my box and killed all my kittens, and a few
other bugs and
>> regressions.
>>     
> KDevelop 3.4 was branched in October last year, it has
11 months of work.
> So yes, I think we should release it.
>   

    I am just a user, and I am looking forward to the new
release which 
has a working C++ code completion. I am using the beta right
now (just 
downloaded the new beta2).

    The current stable releasehas a lot of bugs in code
completion, 
which are fixed, the beta versions have much more better
completion, and 
I would like to use this kind of completion in a kdevelop
stable 
release. I just wanted to say I guess there are a lot of
people looking 
forward to a stable kdevelop release with C++ code
completion. I am not 
satisfied with kdevelop's current stability (did not try
beta2 yet, and 
the stable versions code completion is not satisfying), so I
was trying 
eclipse, netbeans and sun studio other than kdevelop. I am
not used to 
those programs yet. I would be happier with kdevelop without
problems.

    I just wanted to say these words, because it may effect
your 
decesion about making the release.

Thanks for kdevelop 
Can Erogul.

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Am Donnerstag, 7. September 2006 06:32 schrieb Matt Rogers:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be
released? As we get more
> into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't really like
the idea of spending
> anymore time on KDev 3.4. However, I'm not sure that
KDevelop 3.4 is ready
> for general public consumption now, since I've run
into a few crashes, an
> infinite loop of some sort in the new c++ stuff that
chomped all my memory,
> crashed my box and killed all my kittens, and a few
other bugs and
> regressions.
>

If it's a crash in the code-completion stuff, send me a
backtrace and I'll fix 
it.

I think what needs most work before release is the debugger,
a lot of bugs 
need to be fixed until that's really usable(for example the
speed-problem 
with more complex programs).

Then a few general crashes fixed, and 3.4 would be in an
acceptable state IMO. 

greetings, David

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On 06.09.06 23:32:31, Matt Rogers wrote:
> Does anybody have an idea of when beta 3 should be
released? As we get more 
> into the KDE 4 development cycle, I don't really like
the idea of spending 
> anymore time on KDev 3.4. However, I'm not sure that
KDevelop 3.4 is ready 
> for general public consumption now, since I've run
into a few crashes, an 
> infinite loop of some sort in the new c++ stuff that
chomped all my memory, 
> crashed my box and killed all my kittens, and a few
other bugs and 
> regressions.
> 
> So, it really boils down to three questions. 
> 
> 1. Do we want to continue on the path towards releasing
KDevelop 3.4?

I think it would be really bad to abandon kdev3.4, as
there's been so
much work done for it.

As for the bugs/crashes.. I'm still planning on getting a
few more into
kdev3.4 with my qmake-parser-rework. I already said on irc
yesterday
that I can now more or less handle the
scopes/subprojects/includes in
the overview. I'm planning on "opening" the
branch for the public
sometime next week. And if it's been through a couple of
weeks of
testing I'd like to merge it back into kdev3.4.

Andreas

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