status displayer

I am asking this because the KDev3's gdb used bottom
statusbar.

I remember somebody said that status displayer was
discarded
intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no plan for status
displayer?

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On 20.06.07 15:22:05, dukju ahn wrote:
> I am asking this because the KDev3's gdb used bottom
statusbar.
> 
> I remember somebody said that status displayer was
discarded
> intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no plan for status
displayer?

Personally I don't care that much. Alexander is pretty much
against it,
IIRC. What information do you want to display in the
statusbar and does
this need to be in the status bar or does it fit elsewhere
as well?

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On 6/20/07, Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de> wrote:
> On 20.06.07 15:22:05, dukju ahn wrote:
> > I remember somebody said that status displayer was
discarded
> > intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no plan for
status displayer?
>
> Personally I don't care that much. Alexander is pretty
much against it,
> IIRC. What information do you want to display in the
statusbar and does
> this need to be in the status bar or does it fit
elsewhere as well?

And I'm still against it (as well as against toolbars and
another
useless stuff that takes precious vertical space). I'd
rather have
some semi-transparent messages that would appear at the
bottom of the
current editor window and fade away after a few moments.

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On 21.06.07 00:02:01, Alexander Dymo wrote:
> On 6/20/07, Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de> wrote:
> > On 20.06.07 15:22:05, dukju ahn wrote:
> > > I remember somebody said that status
displayer was discarded
> > > intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no plan for
status displayer?
> >
> > Personally I don't care that much. Alexander is
pretty much against it,
> > IIRC. What information do you want to display in
the statusbar and does
> > this need to be in the status bar or does it fit
elsewhere as well?
> 
> And I'm still against it (as well as against toolbars
and another
> useless stuff that takes precious vertical space). I'd
rather have
> some semi-transparent messages that would appear at the
bottom of the
> current editor window and fade away after a few
moments.

+1 from me.

Andreas

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On Thursday 21 June 2007 01:02, Alexander Dymo wrote:
> On 6/20/07, Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de> wrote:
> > On 20.06.07 15:22:05, dukju ahn wrote:
> > > I remember somebody said that status
displayer was discarded
> > > intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no plan for
status displayer?
> >
> > Personally I don't care that much. Alexander is
pretty much against it,
> > IIRC. What information do you want to display in
the statusbar and does
> > this need to be in the status bar or does it fit
elsewhere as well?
> 
> And I'm still against it (as well as against toolbars
and another
> useless stuff that takes precious vertical space). I'd
rather have
> some semi-transparent messages that would appear at the
bottom of the
> current editor window and fade away after a few
moments.

How are you supposed to show "the program is
running" information? Not a single
person thought in in KDev3, it's not obvious is the
application is running under debugger,
or stopped, or what.

- Volodya

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> And I'm still against it (as well as against toolbars
and another
> useless stuff that takes precious vertical space). 

Because of this people can disable all this stuff 

Do you really want to have no statusbar? I don't think that
this is a good 
decision. There is important info from the editor visible in
the statusbar 
and I think we should not simply drop this.

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On 21.06.07 09:44:56, Jens Herden wrote:
> 
> > And I'm still against it (as well as against
toolbars and another
> > useless stuff that takes precious vertical space).

> 
> Because of this people can disable all this stuff 
> 
> Do you really want to have no statusbar? I don't think
that this is a good 
> decision. There is important info from the editor
visible in the statusbar 
> and I think we should not simply drop this.

That information can be in the editor's statusbar, appearing
at the
bottom of the editor (as we already have a wishlist entry
for that).

I personally never even look at the statusbar, simply
because its "too
far away", I nearly have to move my head to see its
content.
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On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Andreas Pakulat wrote:

> On 21.06.07 09:44:56, Jens Herden wrote:
>>
>>> And I'm still against it (as well as against
toolbars and another
>>> useless stuff that takes precious vertical
space).
>>
>> Because of this people can disable all this stuff

>>
>> Do you really want to have no statusbar? I don't
think that this  
>> is a good
>> decision. There is important info from the editor
visible in the  
>> statusbar
>> and I think we should not simply drop this.
>
> That information can be in the editor's statusbar,
appearing at the
> bottom of the editor (as we already have a wishlist
entry for that).
>
> I personally never even look at the statusbar, simply
because its "too
> far away", I nearly have to move my head to see
its content.
> Andreas
>

And because it displays nearly useless information. 

We need to find some other way to display status messages
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> I personally never even look at the statusbar, simply
because its 
> "too far away", I nearly have to move my head
to see its content.

I look at it all the time.  I have the "Show type
evaluation in status
bar" option turned on though.  It's also handy for the
progress bar that
is displayed when opening the project.  It gives me some
indication that
KDevelop is actually doing something while I wait for my
project to
open.

Kris Wong

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On Thursday 21 June 2007 14:51, Vladimir Prus wrote:
> On Thursday 21 June 2007 01:02, Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > On 6/20/07, Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de> wrote:
> > > On 20.06.07 15:22:05, dukju ahn wrote:
> > > > I remember somebody said that status
displayer was discarded
> > > > intentionaly in KDev4. Do we have no
plan for status displayer?
> > >
> > > Personally I don't care that much. Alexander
is pretty much against it,
> > > IIRC. What information do you want to display
in the statusbar and does
> > > this need to be in the status bar or does it
fit elsewhere as well?
> >
> > And I'm still against it (as well as against
toolbars and another
> > useless stuff that takes precious vertical space).
I'd rather have
> > some semi-transparent messages that would appear
at the bottom of the
> > current editor window and fade away after a few
moments.
>
> How are you supposed to show "the program is
running" information? Not a
> single person thought in in KDev3, it's not obvious is
the application is
> running under debugger, or stopped, or what.

I'd like to see that in heading for the main tab for the
debugger, eg. animate 
or change the icon to indicate running, paused etc.

Cheers,
Hamish.

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