Re: KDE/kdevelop/languages/cpp

On 28.06.07 14:49:03, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Von: Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de>
> > On 28.06.07 00:47:10, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Apart from that I'm with Matt here, unless cmake
provides a library and
> > API to query it about the information its
unavoidable to reimplement
> > cmake's logic in the KDevelop CMake support. Matt
already tried to use
> 
> I don't know what you want to achieve. All the
commercial IDEs (MSVC, XCode, Keil, ...) where you can setup
the build with a GUI are *by far* not as powerful as what
you can do with autotools/cmake/scons. I don't see the point
in trying to put all this power into a GUI.
> If you get this working, this would be great, but I
just can't image how this should work. 

I don't see where either of use two said we will provide a
GUI for
everything that CMake can do. I do think Matt will provide a
GUI for
some simple setups (a small project that just adds its
sources to a
executable target) and some convenience things for KDE4 apps
(maybe a
way to add plugins, libraries, desktop files, find kde4,
....).

Everything else will not be in a button-box-editfield-like
GUI, but
instead be done inside and Editor.

Anyway, I'm off now too. Apparently there's just
disagreement here and
as you're not doing the CMake support in Kdevelop we're fine
;P

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Von: Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de>

> On 28.06.07 14:49:03, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > I don't know what you want to achieve. All the
commercial IDEs (MSVC,
> > XCode, Keil, ...) where you can setup the build
with a GUI are *by
> > far* not as powerful as what you can do with
autotools/cmake/scons. I
> > don't see the point in trying to put all this
power into a GUI.
> > If you get this working, this would be great, but
I just can't image
> > how this should work. 
> 
> I don't see where either of use two said we will
provide a GUI for
> everything that CMake can do. I do think Matt will
provide a GUI for
> some simple setups (a small project that just adds its
sources to a
> executable target) and some convenience things for KDE4
apps (maybe a
> way to add plugins, libraries, desktop files, find
kde4, ....).

Ok, this sounds reasonable. But then why does it need to
parse the cmake files ? I'd really like to understand what
the goal is.
Matt said he wants to get the include directories this way,
which sounds very different.

The first thing (simple setups) could be done with an
"internal" project and wouldn't for the second
just a wizard-like thingy which creates the cmake code and
asks you where to put it be enough ?

Alex

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Von: Andreas Pakulat <apakugmx.de>

> On 28.06.07 14:49:03, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > I don't know what you want to achieve. All the
commercial IDEs (MSVC,
> > XCode, Keil, ...) where you can setup the build
with a GUI are *by
> > far* not as powerful as what you can do with
autotools/cmake/scons. I
> > don't see the point in trying to put all this
power into a GUI.
> > If you get this working, this would be great, but
I just can't image
> > how this should work. 
> 
> I don't see where either of use two said we will
provide a GUI for
> everything that CMake can do. I do think Matt will
provide a GUI for
> some simple setups (a small project that just adds its
sources to a
> executable target) and some convenience things for KDE4
apps (maybe a
> way to add plugins, libraries, desktop files, find
kde4, ....).

Ok, this sounds reasonable. But then why does it need to
parse the cmake files ? I'd really like to understand what
the goal is.
Matt said he wants to get the include directories this way,
which sounds very different.

The first thing (simple setups) could be done with an
"internal" project and wouldn't for the second
just a wizard-like thingy which creates the cmake code and
asks you where to put it be enough ?

Alex

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