Re: Brush spacing / rotate / scale

> Anyway, I have started the page on the wiki, there
isn't much on it yet:
> http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Krita/Brushes

Thanks for the link! Nice so far! 

I'm also trying to imagine how elements such as "add
grain, add 
bristles," etc for example could also be implemented
visually rather 
than through a slider. For example, for a brush with
bristles, you 
could click it in the editor while holding down a key or
while in 
a specific mode, and you'd see the number of dots increase
or decrease.

There's one big obstacle I face though: I actually have no
idea what
the future brush parameters will be. :P So I think I'll just
spare
myself the headache for now.

The Big headache will be the long-term goal though, when
Krita needs 
an interface that will be able to handle all those natural
brushes.
I've just looked at the wiki (nice!), and as it noted: even

commercial programs can make the brushes hard to use. 

Result: most people use "predictable" programs
such as Photoshop 
for painting instead. Fewer natural brushes, but also fewer
headaches 
and trying to guess how to do what.

This will be one of the challenges of Krita as a painter
program: I'm 
really quite awed by the work you all have put into the
programming,
but the end question will be: how to make it easy to use?
One day
contributors will have to sit down and perhaps take it from
a 
scenario approach instead of a pure brush functionality
approach. 
Painter gives users lots of functionalities. They also
involve a 
mountain of sliders most people don't know how to use...

It would be a very good thing once the website is up. Then
it may
help give Krita the visibility needed to get even more
contributors,
programming-wise, GUI-wise and in fact, support-wise: where
using
complex natural brushes are concerned, good tutorials may be
a must.
Artists that can write these tutorials, and also provide
ideas as to
how to make the GUI simpler to use, would be of great help.

Nice of you to remind me of "composition" by the
way! I had nearly 
forgotten about that one! One thing about natural painting
media 
is that eventually, Krita may have to find more telling
names for 
modes. Find a Joe Schmoe and tell him "You can use this
program to 
paint! There are lots of paint modes such as multiply, grain
extract 
and value" - then enjoy the ensuing "uuuuh."
On the other hand, 
tell them "watercolor" and they go
"oooh," even if it's actually 
just a low-opacity "multiply" or the likes.


     
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On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Valerie VK wrote:
> > Anyway, I have started the page on the wiki, there
isn't much on it yet:
> > http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Krita/Brushes
>
> Thanks for the link! Nice so far! 
>
> I'm also trying to imagine how elements such as
"add grain, add
> bristles," etc for example could also be
implemented visually rather
> than through a slider. For example, for a brush with
bristles, you
> could click it in the editor while holding down a key
or while in
> a specific mode, and you'd see the number of dots
increase or decrease.

It's not certain that bristles won't need a completely
different editor. And 
completely different parameters. We are still
experimentation, we even have 
currently two different implementations of bristles. There
is more to 
bristles than the number of bristles, it includes also the
"shape" (wether 
all bristles have the same length) ... 

> Result: most people use "predictable"
programs such as Photoshop
> for painting instead. Fewer natural brushes, but also
fewer headaches
> and trying to guess how to do what.

Yeah. From what I have seen the Corel folks also seems to
have quiet a few 
problem when designing their painting system. It seems to be
different 
release after release.

-- 
Cyrille Berger
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