Re: Krita Workspace Proposal + Mock-ups

> That should be doable, 

Of course! I wouldn't be proposing it otherwise.  Krita
is very configurable as is, which is the important first
step
(though... I have a few proposals to make the interface
even
more configurable...)

Initial workspace concepts can be simple, and more features
be 
added as things progress. The thing is that a workspace is
not 
just the GUI settings: it's also what resources (brushes, 
templates etc) go with them. :P

> and it could be interesting to have koffice-wide, too.

> Like a "nanowrimo workspace" and an
"angry-letter" workspace 
> in KWord.

I have no idea how workspaces could be used in a word
processor. XD
Shouldn't templates do the work for most of the tasks?
A "text" workspace vs a "coding"
workspace or the likes could
work though (actually, I have no idea what nanowrimo
means...)

I wouldn't mind workspaces in vector programs though, for 
Illustration, Icon design and Graphs. There are subtle
differences 
in settings (such as whether to maintain stroke width or
not, 
and snapping) that are annoying to re-tweak each time.

> I've always wanted a toolbox metaphor for brushes --
like in 
> http://www.billbaxter.com's applications, but with drawers for 
> brushes, for pencils and so on.

Drawers eh? Why not? Actually, my proposal is simply to have
a 
special type of toolbar where you can click a button and get
the
following:

Load Brush > Folder >
Load Folder >
------------
Configure
------------

This way, you can load a whole folder of presets at a time,
and 
nest it to the left (or anywhere else) as though they were
"normal" 
tools. In an "advanced" workspace system, for
say... a watercolor 
workspace, the menu would look more like this:

Watercolor Fine Set 
Watercolor Rough Set
Watercolor (whatever) Set
--------------
Load other folder >
--------------
Configure

This isn't needed yet, but could one day be useful (maybe
several
years from now) when a user has not just over a hundred
hundred
brushes, but several dozen folders too (it's the little
things
that make life easier. I know I Hate scrolling through
several
dozen fonts at a time, for example, especially when I only
use
a few at a time).

I know it may sound like overkill to give a user the option
of
having so many folders, but it allows new users to try out
different
styles.

Aww... no autopackages yet. Eeek though, good luck on all
the extra
work. How do you manage to work on so many things at a
time?


     
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On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Valerie wrote:
> > That should be doable,
>
> Of course! I wouldn't be proposing it otherwise.  Krita
> is very configurable as is, which is the important
first step
> (though... I have a few proposals to make the interface
even
> more configurable...)
Do not hesitate to fill wishes to bugs.kde.org, there is
usually less people 
to discuss things but it's much better to remind developers
about it.

> Initial workspace concepts can be simple, and more
features be
> added as things progress. The thing is that a workspace
is not
> just the GUI settings: it's also what resources
(brushes,
> templates etc) go with them. :P
What can easily be doable for a starter is list of activated
plugins, it's 
allready possible to disable plugins you don't like (I don't
remember if the 
UI is allready available, but by playing with configuration
file you can do 
it), so it could be possible to offer a list of
disabled/enabled plugins for 
photographer and an other for painter and etc...

> > and it could be interesting to have koffice-wide,
too.
> > Like a "nanowrimo workspace" and an
"angry-letter" workspace
> > in KWord.
>
> I have no idea how workspaces could be used in a word
processor. XD
> Shouldn't templates do the work for most of the tasks?
> A "text" workspace vs a "coding"
workspace or the likes could
> work though (actually, I have no idea what nanowrimo
means...)
Well think about the poor children presented with an overly
complex adult word 
processor : 
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2007/
11/10/koffice-in-educational-settings/

> On icons: whoops, I explained that Really badly. XD I
didn't
> mean icon size. I meant to have icons in the first
place, instead
> of a bunch of text-only menus and lists. Think iPhone
vs the menu
> you have to access to program your video recorder (or
graphical
> interface vs text commands). It's another psychological
thing:
> the visual presence makes an interface looks less
"technical"
> thus less intimidating. It's silly but that's the way
things are.

Ah yes definitively. And not only for beginners, but for
advanced users, it's 
much easier to look for an icons than for some text.

-- 
Cyrille Berger
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