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Stupid dependencies.. ?
user name
2008-03-13 15:31:21
Is there a place to suggest better dependencies for future builds of RH? I'm not sure which list / bug tracking system I should be putting this into.
 
For example,
 
the core group lists authconfig as a mandatory package.
 
authconfig requires rhpl, a package that contains python code used by other programs.
 
rhpl requires wireless-tools.
 
It was not this way in RH4.  authconfig was part of core, but the RHPL package was not required by it, nor did the RHPL package require wireless-tools.
 
So in essence, every server I install into my datacenter with RH5 is going to have the wireless-tools package, a completely arbitrary and unnecessary package, unless I uninstall authconfig, rhpl and wireless-tools in the %post.
 
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Re: Stupid dependencies.. ?
user name
2008-03-13 15:41:53
Hajducko, Steven wrote:
> Is there a place to suggest better dependencies for
future builds of 
> RH? I'm not sure which list / bug tracking system I
should be putting 
> this into.
>
I would suggest bugging your support guys.

> For example,
>  
> the core group lists authconfig as a mandatory
package.
>  
> authconfig requires rhpl, a package that contains
python code used by 
> other programs.

Lots of things, including rhn register (IIRC) use rhpl, so
that's 
reasonable.   It also contains some translation code.
>  
> rhpl requires wireless-tools.
>
Not sure why that is, but that seems busted.   That being
said, there 
may be a good reason for it and perhaps someone
with more experience with rhpl can explain why.

> It was not this way in RH4.  authconfig was part of
core, but the RHPL 
> package was not required by it, nor did the RHPL
package require 
> wireless-tools.
>  
> So in essence, every server I install into my
datacenter with RH5 is 
> going to have the wireless-tools package, a completely
arbitrary and 
> unnecessary package, unless I uninstall authconfig,
rhpl and 
> wireless-tools in the %post.
>  
>
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RE: Stupid dependencies.. ?
user name
2008-03-13 15:51:21
Yeah, the authconfig requiring rhpl does not bug me, as
other things
require rhpl as well.  It's more that rhpl now requires
wireless-tools
that irks me. wireless-tools strikes me as a really
'as-needed' package,
especially in the enterprise environment where many of the
systems RHEL5
is being installed on have no wireless capability.


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> Hajducko, Steven wrote:
> > Is there a place to suggest better dependencies
for future 
> builds of 
> > RH? I'm not sure which list / bug tracking system
I should 
> be putting 
> > this into.
> >
> I would suggest bugging your support guys.
> 
> > For example,
> >  
> > the core group lists authconfig as a mandatory
package.
> >  
> > authconfig requires rhpl, a package that contains
python 
> code used by 
> > other programs.
> 
> Lots of things, including rhn register (IIRC) use rhpl,
so that's 
> reasonable.   It also contains some translation code.
> >  
> > rhpl requires wireless-tools.
> >
> Not sure why that is, but that seems busted.   That
being said, there 
> may be a good reason for it and perhaps someone with
more 
> experience with rhpl can explain why.
> 
> > It was not this way in RH4.  authconfig was part
of core, 
> but the RHPL 
> > package was not required by it, nor did the RHPL
package require 
> > wireless-tools.
> >  
> > So in essence, every server I install into my
datacenter 
> with RH5 is 
> > going to have the wireless-tools package, a
completely 
> arbitrary and 
> > unnecessary package, unless I uninstall
authconfig, rhpl and 
> > wireless-tools in the %post.
> >  
> > 
>
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> > *Steven Hajducko*
> > Systems Engineer, Systems Integration
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