Re: RFC: "gender" field in contacts

Joon,
are you okay with the proposal to fix the <gender>
element tag
in the format specification?

diff -u -u -0 -r1.16 contacts.sgml
--- contacts.sgml       16 Nov 2006 22:34:55 -0000     
1.16
+++ contacts.sgml       15 Apr 2008 16:19:57 -0000
 -75,0
+76,3 
+<para>gender can be empty or is one of male or
female.
+</para>
+

On Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:52, Bernhard Herzog wrote:
> CC to kolab-formatkolab.org because that's where this
question should
> really be discussed.  A final decision should be made
on that list.
>
> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:15, Thomas Jarosch wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 1. April 2008 11:48:04 Bernhard Herzog
wrote:
> > > I think it would be better to use either
single letters (m, f) or to
> > > spell it out (male, female).  Both are
preferable because their meaning
> > > is reasonably obvious.  With integers you
always have to consult the
> > > documentation to figure out what they mean. 
To indicate an unspecified
> > > gender, leave out the gender element
altogether or leave it empty.
> >
> > That's a good point. "male" and
"female" is best as it's consistent
> > with the rest of the Kolab format using complete
names
> > like the recurrence pattern types do.
>
> I've talked about this with Bernhard Reiter and Thomas
Arendsen Hein.  They
> both prefer spelling out male or female, too.  An
unspecified or unknown
> gender can be indicated by omitting the gender element
altogether or by
> leaving it empty.
>
> Do we need other values?

The main questions for more values is:
Do we need to make a distinction between unknown and
unspecified? 
As far as I can see: We do not need those two values and
could wait
if a real use case pops up.

Bernhard


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Hi all,

> +<para>gender can be empty or is one of male or
female.
> +</para>

I have no problem with proposed change to the <gender>
tag. 

Best Regards

Joon Radley
Radley Network Technologies CC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: kolab-format-bounceskolab.org
[mailto:kolab-format-
> bounceskolab.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:22 PM
> To: kolab-formatkolab.org
> Cc: Joon Radley
> Subject: Re: [Kolab-devel] RFC: "gender"
field in contacts
> 
> Joon,
> are you okay with the proposal to fix the
<gender> element tag in the
> format specification?
> 
> diff -u -u -0 -r1.16 contacts.sgml
> --- contacts.sgml       16 Nov 2006 22:34:55 -0000     
1.16
> +++ contacts.sgml       15 Apr 2008 16:19:57 -0000
>  -75,0 +76,3 
> +<para>gender can be empty or is one of male or
female.
> +</para>
> +
> 
> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:52, Bernhard Herzog wrote:
> > CC to kolab-formatkolab.org because that's
where this question
> should
> > really be discussed.  A final decision should be
made on that list.
> >
> > On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:15, Thomas Jarosch
wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 1. April 2008 11:48:04 Bernhard
Herzog wrote:
> > > > I think it would be better to use either
single letters (m, f) or
> > > > to spell it out (male, female).  Both
are preferable because
> their
> > > > meaning is reasonably obvious.  With
integers you always have to
> > > > consult the documentation to figure out
what they mean.  To
> > > > indicate an unspecified gender, leave
out the gender element
> altogether or leave it empty.
> > >
> > > That's a good point. "male" and
"female" is best as it's consistent
> > > with the rest of the Kolab format using
complete names like the
> > > recurrence pattern types do.
> >
> > I've talked about this with Bernhard Reiter and
Thomas Arendsen Hein.
> > They both prefer spelling out male or female, too.
 An unspecified or
> > unknown gender can be indicated by omitting the
gender element
> > altogether or by leaving it empty.
> >
> > Do we need other values?
> 
> The main questions for more values is:
> Do we need to make a distinction between unknown and
unspecified?
> As far as I can see: We do not need those two values
and could wait if
> a real use case pops up.
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> --
> Managing Director - Owner: www.intevation.net      
(Free Software
> Company)
> Germany Coordinator: fsfeurope.org. Coordinator:
www.Kolab-
> Konsortium.com.
> Intevation GmbH, Osnabrück, DE; Amtsgericht Osnabrück,
HRB 18998
> Geschäftsführer Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr.
Jan-Oliver Wagner

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