Better (easier) way to install kolab on Fedora Core Systems??

> Re: Better (easier) way to install kolab on Fedora Core
Systems??

> > Hi,
> > 
> > concerning the official kolab screenshots, Kolab
seems to be an interesting alternative to open-xchange 
> > without its pseudo ms exchange attributes.
> > 
> > I've tested current open-xchange and I'm not
satisfied with that kind of open source groupware 
> > (missing samba integration, missing admin
webfronted, poor email frontend, ...)
> > Nevertheless, I like the attempt to set up a
groupware on open source standard components. 
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I've no luck trying to install
kolab server (2.0.4, 2.1beta2) on a fedora core 5/6test
system.
> > 
> > Is it possible to integrate kolab in a already
running ldap environment (samba pdc) or can kolab only 
> > be set up on a fresh (debian or whatever) based
openpkg system???
> > 
> > I don't see the advantage of packaging kolab with
openpkg. Still after a few days I'm unable to install 
> > openpkg on my fedora system. 
> > 
> > Additionally, I don't like the idea to setup
kolab on a dedicated (maybe xen based) system only to
fullfill 
> > kolab's rpm versions. Does kolab really need
special rpms that are already installed during basic linux 
> > (fedora) installations?
> > 
> > So, why is the installation that COMPLICATED, just
PREVENTING more users (others than debian?) to 
> > install kolab on more different linux
distributions to make kolab more popular?
> > 
> > Today the german kolab forum (www.eforum.de) has
been closed, but even there I found no final solution
> > to my problems.
> > 
> > Has anybody a link to prebuild rpms for current
fedora versions, or maybe a working howto?
>
> 
> Not for fedora, but for opensuse and gentoo there are
native
> packages available.  As no-one made these available for
> Fedora, there are no Fedora packages.  Have a look at 
> http://en.opensuse.org/K
olab to see what's available for suse.
> 
> -- 
> Richard
> 

Richard,

Thanks for your reply. 

Sorry, but I'm not able to change to suse or gentoo (or
debian) just for running KOLAB.

Meanwhile, I also read some posts in the kolab developer
mailling lists as there seems 
to be a discussion about getting rid of the openpkg
addiction. 
Also in your kolab/opensuse link the author is complaining
about the openpkg 
dependencies and its disadvantages [Some facts].

Maybe the kolab developers should release future releases as
tarballs, - btw, that's what's also done 
with the non-commercial version of open-xchange. 

If the kolab team cannot provide ready built packages for
different distributions, than just building 
from tarballs seems to me more successfully than dealing
with the openpkg part.

Sorry, but turning away from a interesting software product
because of massive installations problems 
(failures) is of course not in the developers' interests.

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Why don't you download the source rpms and compile from
that ?

http://max.kde.org:8080/
mirrors/ftp.kolab.org/server/release/kolab-server-2.0.4/sour
ces/

It takes an hour or so to compile but it works.

HTH
Corne

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 12:59, Wolfgang Schleicher
wrote:
> > Re: Better (easier) way to install kolab on Fedora
Core Systems??
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > concerning the official kolab screenshots,
Kolab seems to be an
> > > interesting alternative to open-xchange
without its pseudo ms exchange
> > > attributes.
> > >
> > > I've tested current open-xchange and I'm
not satisfied with that kind
> > > of open source groupware (missing samba
integration, missing admin
> > > webfronted, poor email frontend, ...)
Nevertheless, I like the attempt
> > > to set up a groupware on open source standard
components.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I've no luck trying to
install kolab server (2.0.4,
> > > 2.1beta2) on a fedora core 5/6test system.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to integrate kolab in a
already running ldap environment
> > > (samba pdc) or can kolab only be set up on a
fresh (debian or whatever)
> > > based openpkg system???
> > >
> > > I don't see the advantage of packaging kolab
with openpkg. Still after
> > > a few days I'm unable to install openpkg on
my fedora system.
> > >
> > > Additionally, I don't like the idea to setup
kolab on a dedicated
> > > (maybe xen based) system only to fullfill
kolab's rpm versions. Does
> > > kolab really need special rpms that are
already installed during basic
> > > linux (fedora) installations?
> > >
> > > So, why is the installation that COMPLICATED,
just PREVENTING more
> > > users (others than debian?) to install kolab
on more different linux
> > > distributions to make kolab more popular?
> > >
> > > Today the german kolab forum (www.eforum.de)
has been closed, but even
> > > there I found no final solution to my
problems.
> > >
> > > Has anybody a link to prebuild rpms for
current fedora versions, or
> > > maybe a working howto?
> >
> > Not for fedora, but for opensuse and gentoo there
are native
> > packages available.  As no-one made these
available for
> > Fedora, there are no Fedora packages.  Have a look
at
> > http://en.opensuse.org/K
olab to see what's available for suse.
> >
> > --
> > Richard
>
> Richard,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Sorry, but I'm not able to change to suse or gentoo
(or debian) just for
> running KOLAB.
>
> Meanwhile, I also read some posts in the kolab
developer mailling lists as
> there seems to be a discussion about getting rid of the
openpkg addiction.
> Also in your kolab/opensuse link the author is
complaining about the
> openpkg dependencies and its disadvantages [Some
facts].
>
> Maybe the kolab developers should release future
releases as tarballs, -
> btw, that's what's also done with the non-commercial
version of
> open-xchange.
>
> If the kolab team cannot provide ready built packages
for different
> distributions, than just building from tarballs seems
to me more
> successfully than dealing with the openpkg part.
>
> Sorry, but turning away from a interesting software
product because of
> massive installations problems (failures) is of course
not in the
> developers' interests.
>
>
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Op woensdag 20 september 2006 12:59, schreef Wolfgang
Schleicher:
> Meanwhile, I also read some posts in the kolab
developer mailling lists as
> there seems to be a discussion about getting rid of the
openpkg addiction.

This is not true.  The Kolab Konsortium (KK) will continue
to distribute Kolab 
using openpkg, as they are able to support each and every
distribution 
(including solaris) without the need to build and test kolab
on all those 
distribution.  From their point of view that is a good
approach, but it 
appearantly does not with your pov.

> Also in your kolab/opensuse link the author is
complaining about the
> openpkg dependencies and its disadvantages [Some
facts].

That's me, but I understand the KK approach.  For me the
openpkg release is 
just another distribution.  This is possible now, as kolab
is built with 
autoconf.  It shouldn't be difficult to get kolab build
natively on Fedora, 
but someone from the Fedora community should do it.!

> Maybe the kolab developers should release future
releases as tarballs, -
> btw, that's what's also done with the non-commercial
version of
> open-xchange.

See above.  It's btw the easy (euh not too difficult) to
obtain tarbals.  
Check out the cvs version and execute configure and make. 

> If the kolab team cannot provide ready built packages
for different
> distributions, than just building from tarballs seems
to me more
> successfully than dealing with the openpkg part.

This is a good proposal anyway.  Perhaps you can make this a
with in kolab's 
tracker? https://intevati
on.de/roundup/kolab/

> Sorry, but turning away from a interesting software
product because of
> massive installations problems (failures) is of course
not in the
> developers' interests.

:( Perhaps you can work on the Fedora version?

-- 
Richard Bos
Without a home the journey is endless

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