On Monday 07 April 2008 6:05:24 am Alexander Fischer wrote:
> Please give me some feedback to improve the plutome.
Hi everyone!
Don't you want to have database support, date functions, a
time widget,
MainWindow support, open width dialog, HTTP connections,
KPart loading and be
able to build a browser in Kommander? and you call yourself
geeks? ;)
Seriously, we have been going without a developer for
several years. Recently
Andras helped with the 1.3 release and then I actually
started writing C++
after years of flirting with getting started. Kommander went
several years
with no real development and no new developers. Alex jumped
right into it
never having written C++! I sure wish someone besides me
would give him some
appreciation and encouragement. I know there are not that
many people on this
list, but I know hundreds of thousands of people use
Kommander, if not
millions. Volunteer developers have only the appreciation of
the community
sometimes to drive them on and I really appreciated the hard
work Alex put
into this. I know everyone is busy, but somebody could think
"Gee, I'd hate
for the developers to to lose interest in developing this
project, I should
sample their work and give them some feedback".
Alex, I'm sorry you haven't gotten any feeback. There
aremaybe 100 subscribers
on this list and you'd think some would be more devoted. The
idea here is
that you don't have to actually know how to get SVN or
compile programs...
Yet we have over 7000 downloads of a prerelease version of
Kommander during
development a few years ago.
Here's my opinion... People are fickle. Kommander
development hasn't been
active for a while and everyone who has waited for the
latest newest shiney
object hasn't been getting what they want as KDE4 has been
really late, and
it won't be until 4.1 that things really take off as KDE 4
was not quite
ready for prime time.
My suggestion is to release it publicly, the right way to
test yoru software.
Let the most possible users test and feedback.
Currently I'm working on the following:
1) porting plugins to KDE4
2) prepping the widget set for KDE4 features and the new
editor
3) doing preliminary tests on porting to use the new
Designer to layout
Andras is doing the following:
1) Porting widgets and the executor to run in KDE4 so KDE3
designed dialogs
will work in KDE4 natively
2) Getting ready to assist me with KTextEditor for
duplicating the current
Kommander Text editing in Designer
3) Ready to assist with a project oriented and advanced edit
framework in the
KDevelop framework
Next on the agenda, probably for KDE 4.2, is to make the
Kommander executor
part of the kdebase libraries. This will mean that like
Kross it can be
loaded into applications and used by developers, as well as
users.
Next will be the integration of DBUS enabled languages to
take native control
of all Kommander functionality
KDE4 will see a number of useful improvements in what
Kommander can do. I'm
currently looking over the docs and perusing Daniel
Moltkentin's new Qt4
book. Some of the things I'm looking at doiing, assuming I
can find time
before 4.1.
1) new editor
2) QMainWindow Kommander widget
3) full access to KConfig and KXMLGUI - that means first
class mainwindow apps
4) project oriented design to enable easy distribution
5) secutiry measures I discussed with you
6) native drag and drop support for some widgets with mime
type handling
7) database integration with model/veiw architecture
supporing easy table
editing and foreign key and subform support
8) a number of other enhancements
I'll be working on the release plan shortly.
--
Eric Laffoon
Project Lead - kdewebdev module
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