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DNS resolution for Multi-ISP
country flaguser name
United States
2007-11-05 20:02:05
Hello,

I trying to setup multi-isp configuration (using latest
bering-uClibc
3.1-beta1), and began reading the corresponding doc:
            http://www
.shorewall.net/3.0/MultiISP.html
I am not clear on how the DNS resolution happens if a DNS
request
from one provider goes to the other provider's name server.
ISPs
these days serve their customers alone and reject all
requests
outside their network. 

1. As part of multi-isp setup, is it possible to have the
DNS requests
routed thru' a provider go to provider's DNS IPs?

2. Does listing all ISP's DNS IPs into /etc/resolve.conf
help?

Appreciate any pointers or links.

Thanks
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Seva

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Re: DNS resolution for Multi-ISP
country flaguser name
United States
2007-11-05 20:10:54
imapadari.net wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I trying to setup multi-isp configuration (using latest
bering-uClibc
> 3.1-beta1), and began reading the corresponding doc:
>             http://www
.shorewall.net/3.0/MultiISP.html
> I am not clear on how the DNS resolution happens if a
DNS request
> from one provider goes to the other provider's name
server. ISPs
> these days serve their customers alone and reject all
requests
> outside their network. 
> 
> 1. As part of multi-isp setup, is it possible to have
the DNS requests
> routed thru' a provider go to provider's DNS IPs?
> 
> 2. Does listing all ISP's DNS IPs into
/etc/resolve.conf help?
> 
> Appreciate any pointers or links.

DNS is not a special case  -- it obeys the same rules as any
other
connection.

-Tom
-- 
Tom Eastep     Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently
talented fool
Shoreline,      http://shorewall.net
Washington USA   teastepshorewall.net
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Re: DNS resolution for Multi-ISP
country flaguser name
United States
2007-11-05 20:33:10
> > I trying to setup multi-isp configuration (using
latest bering-uClibc
> > 3.1-beta1), and began reading the corresponding
doc:
> >             http://www
.shorewall.net/3.0/MultiISP.html
> > I am not clear on how the DNS resolution happens
if a DNS request
> > from one provider goes to the other provider's
name server. ISPs
> > these days serve their customers alone and reject
all requests
> > outside their network. 
> > 
> > 1. As part of multi-isp setup, is it possible to
have the DNS requests
> > routed thru' a provider go to provider's DNS IPs?
> > 
> > 2. Does listing all ISP's DNS IPs into
/etc/resolve.conf help?
> > 
> > Appreciate any pointers or links.
> 
> DNS is not a special case  -- it obeys the same rules
as any other
> connection.
> 
> -Tom

Thanks for a prompt response Tom.

DNS not being special case does make sense. Do you have any
suggestions
on how to deal with the DNS look up failures when the
requests are sent
to wrong provider.

Thanks



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Re: DNS resolution for Multi-ISP
country flaguser name
United States
2007-11-05 20:57:53
> >>> I trying to setup multi-isp configuration
(using latest bering-uClibc
> >>> 3.1-beta1), and began reading the
corresponding doc:
> >>>             http://www
.shorewall.net/3.0/MultiISP.html
> >>> I am not clear on how the DNS resolution
happens if a DNS request
> >>> from one provider goes to the other
provider's name server. ISPs
> >>> these days serve their customers alone and
reject all requests
> >>> outside their network. 
> >>>
> >>> 1. As part of multi-isp setup, is it
possible to have the DNS requests
> >>> routed thru' a provider go to provider's
DNS IPs?
> >>>
> >>> 2. Does listing all ISP's DNS IPs into
/etc/resolve.conf help?
> >>>
> >>> Appreciate any pointers or links.
> >> DNS is not a special case  -- it obeys the
same rules as any other
> >> connection.
> >>
> >> -Tom
> > 
> > Thanks for a prompt response Tom.
> > 
> > DNS not being special case does make sense. Do you
have any suggestions
> > on how to deal with the DNS look up failures when
the requests are sent
> > to wrong provider.
> 
> What does "request are sent to wrong
provider" mean?
> 
> -Tom

Let me give you an example:
isp1: DNS  1.2.3.4, 2.3.4.5
isp2: DNS  3.4.5.6, 4.5.6.7

Assume that we list all the above in /etc/resolv.conf file.
When you 
start the very first time, if using multi-isp, the request
for DNS
resolution could go to either of the two ISPs. Assume that
the request
goes to isp2 but the DNS server picked for resolution is
1.2.3.4. 
This scenario is what I am referring to as 'wrong provider'
(DNS
resolution point of view).

Thanks






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Re: DNS resolution for Multi-ISP
country flaguser name
United States
2007-11-05 21:51:53
> >>>>> I trying to setup multi-isp
configuration (using latest bering-uClibc
> >>>>> 3.1-beta1), and began reading the
corresponding doc:
> >>>>>             http://www
.shorewall.net/3.0/MultiISP.html
> >>>>> I am not clear on how the DNS
resolution happens if a DNS request
> >>>>> from one provider goes to the
other provider's name server. ISPs
> >>>>> these days serve their customers
alone and reject all requests
> >>>>> outside their network. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. As part of multi-isp setup, is
it possible to have the DNS requests
> >>>>> routed thru' a provider go to
provider's DNS IPs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Does listing all ISP's DNS IPs
into /etc/resolve.conf help?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Appreciate any pointers or links.
> >>>> DNS is not a special case  -- it obeys
the same rules as any other
> >>>> connection.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Tom
> >>> Thanks for a prompt response Tom.
> >>>
> >>> DNS not being special case does make
sense. Do you have any suggestions
> >>> on how to deal with the DNS look up
failures when the requests are sent
> >>> to wrong provider.
> >> What does "request are sent to wrong
provider" mean?
> >>
> >> -Tom
> > 
> > Let me give you an example:
> > isp1: DNS  1.2.3.4, 2.3.4.5
> > isp2: DNS  3.4.5.6, 4.5.6.7
> > 
> > Assume that we list all the above in
/etc/resolv.conf file. When you 
> > start the very first time, if using multi-isp, the
request for DNS
> > resolution could go to either of the two ISPs.
Assume that the request
> > goes to isp2 but the DNS server picked for
resolution is 1.2.3.4. 
> > This scenario is what I am referring to as 'wrong
provider' (DNS
> > resolution point of view).
> >
> 
> You might consider route_rules that route 1.2.3.4 and
2.3.4.5 out of
> isp1 and 3.4.5.6 and 4.5.6.7 out of isp2.....
> 
> -Tom

Thanks for the tip. I have read the route_rules doc and
things are
a bit clear to me.

Thanks for all the help and wonderful package!




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