Re: Dreamweaver 8 vs Microsoft Expression Web

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED NVU? I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT NVU SEEMS TO
BE COMPARABLE
TO FRONTPAGE AND DREAMWEAVER, EXCEPT THAT IT IS FREE. FROM
THE NVU SITE:

QUESTION: IS NVU A CLONE OF MICROSOFT'S FRONTPAGE AND/OR
MACROMEDIA'S DREAMWEAVER?


ANSWER: FRONTPAGE AND DREAMWEAVER ARE POPULAR HTML EDITORS
FOR MS WINDOWS.
THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BECOME POPULAR BECAUSE THEY MAKE WEB
DESIGN EXTREMELY
EASY, EVEN FOR NON-TECHNICAL PEOPLE. NVU IS NOT AN EXACT
CLONE OF EITHER OF
THESE PRODUCTS, BUT IT DOES CONTAIN MANY OF THE SAME
EASY-TO-USE FEATURES
WHICH MAKES THESE PROGRAMS SO POPULAR.USERS FAMILIAR WITH
EITHER OF THESE
TWO PRODUCTS WILL FEEL RIGHT AT HOME USING NVU.

HTTP://WWW.NVU.COM/INDEX.PHP


MIKE IN DUBUQUE

> > CAROLE SUZUI WROTE:
> >> HAS ANYONE USED MICROSOFT
EXPRESSION WEB, THE WEB AUTHORING PACKAGE 
> >> THAT IS
> >> REPLACING FRONTPAGE?
 HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO DREAMWEAVER 8 IN ADVANCED
> >> FEATURES, LEARNING
CURVE, TECH SUPPORT, AND STANDARDS.
> >>
> >> THANK YOU.

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I've used Nvu, and it's good, but I wouldn't say it's on a
par with
Dreamweaver.  Of course, the price is right.   And it's
available in both
Windows and Linux.

The wysiwyg part is very good, but switching to the code
part of Nvu just
seems to cause problems.  If you do need to get into the
code, use a text
editor or code editor.  But one of the things I've noticed
is it adds huge
blocks of white space to the code, so when I go in to edit
the code by hand
I spend a lot of time just getting rid of the whitespace
(which returns the
next time someone edits the page with Nvu).

Depending on how much HTML you need to know and how much
complexity you need
for the website, it could be the right solution.  I'd pick
it over anything
from Microsoft, but not over Dreamweaver.   But that's just
me...

Carol
beanworks.wordpress.com

On 2/28/07, Carol Bean <beanworksgmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've used Nvu, and it's good, but I wouldn't say it's
on a par with
> Dreamweaver.  Of course, the price is right.   And it's
available in both
> Windows and Linux.
>
> The wysiwyg part is very good, but switching to the
code part of Nvu just
> seems to cause problems.  If you do need to get into
the code, use a text
> editor or code editor.  But one of the things I've
noticed is it adds huge
> blocks of white space to the code, so when I go in to
edit the code by hand
> I spend a lot of time just getting rid of the
whitespace (which returns the
> next time someone edits the page with Nvu).
>
> Depending on how much HTML you need to know and how
much complexity you
> need for the website, it could be the right solution. 
I'd pick it over
> anything from Microsoft, but not over Dreamweaver.  
But that's just me...
>
> Carol
> beanworks.wordpress.com
>
> On 28 Feb 2007 17:19:25 -0000, MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com <
> MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com> wrote:
> >
> > Have you considered Nvu? I'm not an expert, but
Nvu seems to be
> > comparable
> > to FrontPage and Dreamweaver, except that it is
free. From the Nvu site:
> >
> > Question: Is Nvu a clone of Microsoft's FrontPage
and/or Macromedia's
> > Dreamweaver?
> >
> >
> > Answer: FrontPage and Dreamweaver are popular HTML
editors for MS
> > Windows.
> > These programs have become popular because they
make web design
> > extremely
> > easy, even for non-technical people. Nvu is not an
exact clone of either
> > of
> > these products, but it does contain many of the
same easy-to-use
> > features
> > which makes these programs so popular.Users
familiar with either of
> > these
> > two products will feel right at home using Nvu.
> >
> > http://www.nvu.com/index
.php
> >
> >
> > Mike in Dubuque
> >
> > > > Carole Suzui wrote:
> > > >> Has anyone used Microsoft
> > Expression Web, the web authoring package
> > > >> that is
> > > >> replacing FrontPage?
> > How does it compare to Dreamweaver 8 in advanced
> > > >> features, learning
> > curve, tech support, and standards.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> >
>
>
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I've used Nvu, and it's good, but I wouldn't say it's on a
par with
Dreamweaver.  Of course, the price is right.   And it's
available in both
Windows and Linux.

The wysiwyg part is very good, but switching to the code
part of Nvu just
seems to cause problems.  If you do need to get into the
code, use a text
editor or code editor.  But one of the things I've noticed
is it adds huge
blocks of white space to the code, so when I go in to edit
the code by hand
I spend a lot of time just getting rid of the whitespace
(which returns the
next time someone edits the page with Nvu).

Depending on how much HTML you need to know and how much
complexity you need
for the website, it could be the right solution.  I'd pick
it over anything
from Microsoft, but not over Dreamweaver.   But that's just
me...

Carol
beanworks.wordpress.com

On 2/28/07, Carol Bean <beanworksgmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've used Nvu, and it's good, but I wouldn't say it's
on a par with
> Dreamweaver.  Of course, the price is right.   And it's
available in both
> Windows and Linux.
>
> The wysiwyg part is very good, but switching to the
code part of Nvu just
> seems to cause problems.  If you do need to get into
the code, use a text
> editor or code editor.  But one of the things I've
noticed is it adds huge
> blocks of white space to the code, so when I go in to
edit the code by hand
> I spend a lot of time just getting rid of the
whitespace (which returns the
> next time someone edits the page with Nvu).
>
> Depending on how much HTML you need to know and how
much complexity you
> need for the website, it could be the right solution. 
I'd pick it over
> anything from Microsoft, but not over Dreamweaver.  
But that's just me...
>
> Carol
> beanworks.wordpress.com
>
> On 28 Feb 2007 17:19:25 -0000, MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com <
> MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com> wrote:
> >
> > Have you considered Nvu? I'm not an expert, but
Nvu seems to be
> > comparable
> > to FrontPage and Dreamweaver, except that it is
free. From the Nvu site:
> >
> > Question: Is Nvu a clone of Microsoft's FrontPage
and/or Macromedia's
> > Dreamweaver?
> >
> >
> > Answer: FrontPage and Dreamweaver are popular HTML
editors for MS
> > Windows.
> > These programs have become popular because they
make web design
> > extremely
> > easy, even for non-technical people. Nvu is not an
exact clone of either
> > of
> > these products, but it does contain many of the
same easy-to-use
> > features
> > which makes these programs so popular.Users
familiar with either of
> > these
> > two products will feel right at home using Nvu.
> >
> > http://www.nvu.com/index
.php
> >
> >
> > Mike in Dubuque
> >
> > > > Carole Suzui wrote:
> > > >> Has anyone used Microsoft
> > Expression Web, the web authoring package
> > > >> that is
> > > >> replacing FrontPage?
> > How does it compare to Dreamweaver 8 in advanced
> > > >> features, learning
> > curve, tech support, and standards.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> >
>
>
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If you  /*never*/  look at the code behind the page, Nvu is
quite nice.


However, if you're like me & like to nest your divs or
indent other
semi-static content with a text editor, Nvu completely
whacks any
formatting out of the code view on edited pages.  

This is the major reason I do not encourage Nvu here at
MPOW.

-Aaron
'

PS If you know how to keep Nvu from doing this, I would
dearly love to
know!

-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of
MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:19 PM
To: web4libwebjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Dreamweaver 8 vs Microsoft Expression
Web

Have you considered Nvu? I'm not an expert, but Nvu seems to
be
comparable
to FrontPage and Dreamweaver, except that it is free. From
the Nvu site:

Question: Is Nvu a clone of Microsoft's FrontPage and/or
Macromedia's
Dreamweaver?


Answer: FrontPage and Dreamweaver are popular HTML editors
for MS
Windows.
These programs have become popular because they make web
design
extremely
easy, even for non-technical people. Nvu is not an exact
clone of either
of
these products, but it does contain many of the same
easy-to-use
features
which makes these programs so popular.Users familiar with
either of
these
two products will feel right at home using Nvu.

http://www.nvu.com/index
.php


Mike in Dubuque

> > Carole Suzui wrote:
> >> Has anyone used Microsoft
Expression Web, the web authoring package 
> >> that is
> >> replacing FrontPage?
 How does it compare to Dreamweaver 8 in advanced
> >> features, learning
curve, tech support, and standards.
> >>
> >> Thank you.

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If you  /*never*/  look at the code behind the page, Nvu is
quite nice.


However, if you're like me & like to nest your divs or
indent other
semi-static content with a text editor, Nvu completely
whacks any
formatting out of the code view on edited pages.  

This is the major reason I do not encourage Nvu here at
MPOW.

-Aaron
'

PS If you know how to keep Nvu from doing this, I would
dearly love to
know!

-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of
MichaelMay.27904586bloglines.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:19 PM
To: web4libwebjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Dreamweaver 8 vs Microsoft Expression
Web

Have you considered Nvu? I'm not an expert, but Nvu seems to
be
comparable
to FrontPage and Dreamweaver, except that it is free. From
the Nvu site:

Question: Is Nvu a clone of Microsoft's FrontPage and/or
Macromedia's
Dreamweaver?


Answer: FrontPage and Dreamweaver are popular HTML editors
for MS
Windows.
These programs have become popular because they make web
design
extremely
easy, even for non-technical people. Nvu is not an exact
clone of either
of
these products, but it does contain many of the same
easy-to-use
features
which makes these programs so popular.Users familiar with
either of
these
two products will feel right at home using Nvu.

http://www.nvu.com/index
.php


Mike in Dubuque

> > Carole Suzui wrote:
> >> Has anyone used Microsoft
Expression Web, the web authoring package 
> >> that is
> >> replacing FrontPage?
 How does it compare to Dreamweaver 8 in advanced
> >> features, learning
curve, tech support, and standards.
> >>
> >> Thank you.

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