RE: _Wiki-based Bibliography Software and/or Services ?_

Thanks for the plug, Ryan.

WikiD was a research prototype to extend wiki principles to
collections
of structured data (http://alcme.oclc.org/wi
kid/). I never implemented a
citation/bibliographic service for it, but it's within the
range of
possibilities.

WikiD is currently being used behind the scenes to support
contributed
content in Open WorldCat (i.e. Reviews, Notes, and TOCs).
For example:
http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/isbn
/1594200637&tab=reviews.

(BTW, there is a link on Open WorldCat pages named
"Cite this item" that
produces various styles of bibliographic citation. I can't
imagine why
they didn't implement this as a web service, though, so you
could
interact with it directly by hacking URLs.)

WikiD is available as a CVS module, but it's not well
supported and I
wouldn't recommend it as a solution. Nevertheless, many of
the concepts
behind WikiD have been incorporated into a new system here
at OCLC
called the Registry Framework Architecture that we are using
as a
general-purpose platform for managing arbitrary collections
of items
(e.g. the Institutions collection at
http://worl
dcat.org/registry/Institutions). The Open WorldCat
contributed-content mentioned above will eventually be moved
to this new
platform. 

The plan is to make the Registry Framework available as
open-source, but
it's not clear when that will happen since demand for it
within OCLC is
keeping us plenty busy for now.

Jeff 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-
> bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Eby
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:26 PM
> To: web4lib
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] _Wiki-based Bibliography
Software and/or
Services
> ?_
> 
> I missed the original message so apologies if this has
already been
said
> but what your describing sounds similar to OCLC's WikiD
project which
I
> believe can handle bib data in multiple formats and
crosswalk them. I
> believe it also powers part of OpenWorldCat, not sure
about the
citation
> output part.
> 
> http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/projects/wikid/
> 
> Unfortunately I don't think it's something you can
download or install
but
> if you really have interest in it you can probably
contact Jeff
> Young:
> 
> http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/staff/young.htm
> 
> I've seen him talk about it a few times and I can't say
I've fully
grokked
> it but it does exist.
> 
> Ryan Eby
> 
> On 4/30/07, Lars Aronsson <larsaronsson.se> wrote:
> > Gerry Mckiernan wrote:
> >
> > > I am greatly interested in identifying
wiki-based software or
> > > systems that provide for the input of
bibliographic data and the
> > > output of a standard bibliography.
> >
> > Not a tool for creating standard (personal)
bibliographies, but a
> > wiki-like system (though some say it's absolutely
non-wiki, because
it
> > uses structured data and not free text) for
maintaining a global
> > *disc*ography is musicbrainz.org.
> >
> > A collaborative filtering website that can output
standard
> > bibliographies (personal citation lists) is
citeulike.org.
> >
> > And of course there is librarything.com, which
perhaps is not
> > wiki-like enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >   Lars Aronsson (larsaronsson.se)
> >   Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> >
> _______________________________________________
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bjunction.org/web4lib/
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I take it back. It looks like you can hack the URLs of Open
WorldCat's
citation service:

http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/oclc/61396956?page=
citation

Now if someone could convince them to add a bit more
structure to their
responses, clients could automate the extraction of their
favorite form.

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-
> bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Young,Jeff (OR)
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: web4lib
> Subject: RE: [Web4lib] _Wiki-based Bibliography
Software and/or
Services
> ?_
> 
> Thanks for the plug, Ryan.
> 
> WikiD was a research prototype to extend wiki
principles to
collections
> of structured data (http://alcme.oclc.org/wi
kid/). I never implemented
a
> citation/bibliographic service for it, but it's within
the range of
> possibilities.
> 
> WikiD is currently being used behind the scenes to
support contributed
> content in Open WorldCat (i.e. Reviews, Notes, and
TOCs). For example:
> http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/isbn
/1594200637&tab=reviews.
> 
> (BTW, there is a link on Open WorldCat pages named
"Cite this item"
that
> produces various styles of bibliographic citation. I
can't imagine why
> they didn't implement this as a web service, though, so
you could
> interact with it directly by hacking URLs.)
> 
> WikiD is available as a CVS module, but it's not well
supported and I
> wouldn't recommend it as a solution. Nevertheless, many
of the
concepts
> behind WikiD have been incorporated into a new system
here at OCLC
> called the Registry Framework Architecture that we are
using as a
> general-purpose platform for managing arbitrary
collections of items
> (e.g. the Institutions collection at
> http://worl
dcat.org/registry/Institutions). The Open WorldCat
> contributed-content mentioned above will eventually be
moved to this
new
> platform.
> 
> The plan is to make the Registry Framework available as
open-source,
but
> it's not clear when that will happen since demand for
it within OCLC
is
> keeping us plenty busy for now.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-
> > bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Eby
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:26 PM
> > To: web4lib
> > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] _Wiki-based Bibliography
Software and/or
> Services
> > ?_
> >
> > I missed the original message so apologies if this
has already been
> said
> > but what your describing sounds similar to OCLC's
WikiD project
which
> I
> > believe can handle bib data in multiple formats
and crosswalk them.
I
> > believe it also powers part of OpenWorldCat, not
sure about the
> citation
> > output part.
> >
> > http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/projects/wikid/
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't think it's something you can
download or
install
> but
> > if you really have interest in it you can probably
contact Jeff
> > Young:
> >
> > http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/staff/young.htm
> >
> > I've seen him talk about it a few times and I
can't say I've fully
> grokked
> > it but it does exist.
> >
> > Ryan Eby
> >
> > On 4/30/07, Lars Aronsson <larsaronsson.se> wrote:
> > > Gerry Mckiernan wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am greatly interested in identifying
wiki-based software or
> > > > systems that provide for the input of
bibliographic data and the
> > > > output of a standard bibliography.
> > >
> > > Not a tool for creating standard (personal)
bibliographies, but a
> > > wiki-like system (though some say it's
absolutely non-wiki,
because
> it
> > > uses structured data and not free text) for
maintaining a global
> > > *disc*ography is musicbrainz.org.
> > >
> > > A collaborative filtering website that can
output standard
> > > bibliographies (personal citation lists) is
citeulike.org.
> > >
> > > And of course there is librarything.com,
which perhaps is not
> > > wiki-like enough.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Lars Aronsson (larsaronsson.se)
> > >   Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
> > >
_______________________________________________
> > > Web4lib mailing list
> > > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
_______________________________________________
Web4lib mailing list
Web4libwebjunction.org
http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

I take it back. It looks like you can hack the URLs of Open
WorldCat's
citation service:

http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/oclc/61396956?page=
citation

Now if someone could convince them to add a bit more
structure to their
responses, clients could automate the extraction of their
favorite form.

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-
> bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Young,Jeff (OR)
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: web4lib
> Subject: RE: [Web4lib] _Wiki-based Bibliography
Software and/or
Services
> ?_
> 
> Thanks for the plug, Ryan.
> 
> WikiD was a research prototype to extend wiki
principles to
collections
> of structured data (http://alcme.oclc.org/wi
kid/). I never implemented
a
> citation/bibliographic service for it, but it's within
the range of
> possibilities.
> 
> WikiD is currently being used behind the scenes to
support contributed
> content in Open WorldCat (i.e. Reviews, Notes, and
TOCs). For example:
> http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/isbn
/1594200637&tab=reviews.
> 
> (BTW, there is a link on Open WorldCat pages named
"Cite this item"
that
> produces various styles of bibliographic citation. I
can't imagine why
> they didn't implement this as a web service, though, so
you could
> interact with it directly by hacking URLs.)
> 
> WikiD is available as a CVS module, but it's not well
supported and I
> wouldn't recommend it as a solution. Nevertheless, many
of the
concepts
> behind WikiD have been incorporated into a new system
here at OCLC
> called the Registry Framework Architecture that we are
using as a
> general-purpose platform for managing arbitrary
collections of items
> (e.g. the Institutions collection at
> http://worl
dcat.org/registry/Institutions). The Open WorldCat
> contributed-content mentioned above will eventually be
moved to this
new
> platform.
> 
> The plan is to make the Registry Framework available as
open-source,
but
> it's not clear when that will happen since demand for
it within OCLC
is
> keeping us plenty busy for now.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-
> > bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Eby
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:26 PM
> > To: web4lib
> > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] _Wiki-based Bibliography
Software and/or
> Services
> > ?_
> >
> > I missed the original message so apologies if this
has already been
> said
> > but what your describing sounds similar to OCLC's
WikiD project
which
> I
> > believe can handle bib data in multiple formats
and crosswalk them.
I
> > believe it also powers part of OpenWorldCat, not
sure about the
> citation
> > output part.
> >
> > http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/projects/wikid/
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't think it's something you can
download or
install
> but
> > if you really have interest in it you can probably
contact Jeff
> > Young:
> >
> > http://w
ww.oclc.org/research/staff/young.htm
> >
> > I've seen him talk about it a few times and I
can't say I've fully
> grokked
> > it but it does exist.
> >
> > Ryan Eby
> >
> > On 4/30/07, Lars Aronsson <larsaronsson.se> wrote:
> > > Gerry Mckiernan wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am greatly interested in identifying
wiki-based software or
> > > > systems that provide for the input of
bibliographic data and the
> > > > output of a standard bibliography.
> > >
> > > Not a tool for creating standard (personal)
bibliographies, but a
> > > wiki-like system (though some say it's
absolutely non-wiki,
because
> it
> > > uses structured data and not free text) for
maintaining a global
> > > *disc*ography is musicbrainz.org.
> > >
> > > A collaborative filtering website that can
output standard
> > > bibliographies (personal citation lists) is
citeulike.org.
> > >
> > > And of course there is librarything.com,
which perhaps is not
> > > wiki-like enough.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Lars Aronsson (larsaronsson.se)
> > >   Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
> > >
_______________________________________________
> > > Web4lib mailing list
> > > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
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> http://lists.we
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