Vendors Deep Indexed in Google

Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be willing to
share of library 
database and index vendors who are deep indexed in Google?  
E.g. it 
appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in google (just
limit a 
search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what other
vendors are out 
there.
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In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and depth
of Google's
indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears. They
have suggested
that the way to find out is by running experiments
(basically throwing
spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks) in order to
determine this for
ourselves. If anyone has heard any different, I would love
to know about it.
Roy


On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato" <samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:

> Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be willing to
share of library
> database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in google
(just limit a
> search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what other
vendors are out
> there.
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

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In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and depth
of Google's
indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears. They
have suggested
that the way to find out is by running experiments
(basically throwing
spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks) in order to
determine this for
ourselves. If anyone has heard any different, I would love
to know about it.
Roy


On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato" <samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:

> Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be willing to
share of library
> database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in google
(just limit a
> search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what other
vendors are out
> there.
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

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It would be interesting to pull a list of target domains of
interest out
of our link resolvers, google them using the site: prefix,
and tabulate
the number of hits week by week. You could also search
separately for
pdfs using the file format option. If you saw a sudden
increase for a
particular domain week over week, you'd at least know that
new stuff had
been added. For targets that structure their urls the right
way, you
could even search for particular issns in the url using the
"Occurrences" field. In this way you could start
to build a map of the
coverage of the main scholarly resources, and then refine it
by manual
searching.

At least, you could do all this until Google noticed and
blocked you.
Let's let Roy do it: not even Google would mess with OCLC!

Happy solstice, all.

Peter



-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:54 PM
To: web4libwebjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Vendors Deep Indexed in Google

In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and depth
of Google's
indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears. They
have
suggested that the way to find out is by running experiments
(basically
throwing spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks) in
order to
determine this for ourselves. If anyone has heard any
different, I would
love to know about it.
Roy


On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato" <samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:

> Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be willing to
share of
library
> database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in google
(just limit a 
> search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what other
vendors are 
> out there.
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

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http://lists.we
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It would be interesting to pull a list of target domains of
interest out
of our link resolvers, google them using the site: prefix,
and tabulate
the number of hits week by week. You could also search
separately for
pdfs using the file format option. If you saw a sudden
increase for a
particular domain week over week, you'd at least know that
new stuff had
been added. For targets that structure their urls the right
way, you
could even search for particular issns in the url using the
"Occurrences" field. In this way you could start
to build a map of the
coverage of the main scholarly resources, and then refine it
by manual
searching.

At least, you could do all this until Google noticed and
blocked you.
Let's let Roy do it: not even Google would mess with OCLC!

Happy solstice, all.

Peter



-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:54 PM
To: web4libwebjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Vendors Deep Indexed in Google

In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and depth
of Google's
indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears. They
have
suggested that the way to find out is by running experiments
(basically
throwing spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks) in
order to
determine this for ourselves. If anyone has heard any
different, I would
love to know about it.
Roy


On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato" <samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:

> Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be willing to
share of
library
> database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in google
(just limit a 
> search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what other
vendors are 
> out there.
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

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How about this? All of us use del.icio.us and tag sites that
we know
Google, Yahoo or whatever deep index with the tag
"deepindexed"?

You could retrieve everybody's entries with the url

http://del.icio.us
/tag/deepindexed

We should additionally tag the name of the search engine(s)
you've
tested along with the "deepindexed" tag so that
you can retrieve
results more precisely -- e.g.,

http://del.
icio.us/tag/deepindexed+google
or
http://del.i
cio.us/tag/deepindexed+yahoo

Tom


On 12/21/07, Binkley, Peter <Peter.Binkleyualberta.ca> wrote:
> It would be interesting to pull a list of target
domains of interest out
> of our link resolvers, google them using the site:
prefix, and tabulate
> the number of hits week by week. You could also search
separately for
> pdfs using the file format option. If you saw a sudden
increase for a
> particular domain week over week, you'd at least know
that new stuff had
> been added. For targets that structure their urls the
right way, you
> could even search for particular issns in the url using
the
> "Occurrences" field. In this way you could
start to build a map of the
> coverage of the main scholarly resources, and then
refine it by manual
> searching.
>
> At least, you could do all this until Google noticed
and blocked you.
> Let's let Roy do it: not even Google would mess with
OCLC!
>
> Happy solstice, all.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
> [mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf
Of Roy Tennant
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:54 PM
> To: web4libwebjunction.org
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Vendors Deep Indexed in Google
>
> In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and
depth of Google's
> indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears.
They have
> suggested that the way to find out is by running
experiments (basically
> throwing spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks)
in order to
> determine this for ourselves. If anyone has heard any
different, I would
> love to know about it.
> Roy
>
>
> On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato"
<samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be
willing to share of
> library
> > database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> > appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in
google (just limit a
> > search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what
other vendors are
> > out there.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
> --
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
_______________________________________________
Web4lib mailing list
Web4libwebjunction.org
http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/

How about this? All of us use del.icio.us and tag sites that
we know
Google, Yahoo or whatever deep index with the tag
"deepindexed"?

You could retrieve everybody's entries with the url

http://del.icio.us
/tag/deepindexed

We should additionally tag the name of the search engine(s)
you've
tested along with the "deepindexed" tag so that
you can retrieve
results more precisely -- e.g.,

http://del.
icio.us/tag/deepindexed+google
or
http://del.i
cio.us/tag/deepindexed+yahoo

Tom


On 12/21/07, Binkley, Peter <Peter.Binkleyualberta.ca> wrote:
> It would be interesting to pull a list of target
domains of interest out
> of our link resolvers, google them using the site:
prefix, and tabulate
> the number of hits week by week. You could also search
separately for
> pdfs using the file format option. If you saw a sudden
increase for a
> particular domain week over week, you'd at least know
that new stuff had
> been added. For targets that structure their urls the
right way, you
> could even search for particular issns in the url using
the
> "Occurrences" field. In this way you could
start to build a map of the
> coverage of the main scholarly resources, and then
refine it by manual
> searching.
>
> At least, you could do all this until Google noticed
and blocked you.
> Let's let Roy do it: not even Google would mess with
OCLC!
>
> Happy solstice, all.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org
> [mailto:web4lib-bounceswebjunction.org] On Behalf
Of Roy Tennant
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:54 PM
> To: web4libwebjunction.org
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Vendors Deep Indexed in Google
>
> In the past, repeated requests to know the breadth and
depth of Google's
> indexing of scholarly content have fallen on deaf ears.
They have
> suggested that the way to find out is by running
experiments (basically
> throwing spaghetti against a wall to see what sticks)
in order to
> determine this for ourselves. If anyone has heard any
different, I would
> love to know about it.
> Roy
>
>
> On 12/21/07 2:41 PM, "Sara Amato"
<samatobowdoin.edu> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone keeping  a list that they would be
willing to share of
> library
> > database and index vendors who are deep indexed in
Google?   E.g. it
> > appears most if not all of JSTOR is indexed in
google (just limit a
> > search to site:jstor.org), and I'm wondering what
other vendors are
> > out there.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web4lib mailing list
> > Web4libwebjunction.org
> > http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
> --
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Web4libwebjunction.org
> http://lists.we
bjunction.org/web4lib/
>
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