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Thin Client OPACs and Meebo connection
country flaguser name
United States
2008-01-15 11:43:12
Has anybody had issues getting Meebo widget to work on thin
client
OPACs?  I installed the Meebo widget on a test web page, and
it works
fine from the web, but for some reason it doesn't want to
connect to
Meebo on our thin clients.  
 
I have enabled the URLs (meebo.com, widget.meebo.com and
widget.meebo.com/mm.swf) through our Symantec security, but
it doesn't
seem to want to connect. Our IT guys were unable to figure
it out on a
quick pass through.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Brian J. Lind
Reference Librarian
Rochester Public Library
101 Second St. SE
Rochester, MN 55904
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Image protection
user name
2008-01-15 17:33:40
Greetings,

Other than the perceived notion that images are protected
by copyright and therefore off limits - are there any
technological
methods or procedures to inhibit reproduction of original
jpeg
or gif images on the web? Can anyone recommend a solution? 

It is fairly easy to set up a no right click java script
command
and I have thought about watermarks a bit. But watermarks
can
detract for the overall imagery and the script only slows
people
down a bit.

Thanks for any recommendations!
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Re: Image protection
user name
2008-01-16 05:58:32
On Jan 15, 2008 5:33 PM, Robert L. Balliot
<rballiotoceanstatelibrarian.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> Other than the perceived notion that images are
protected
> by copyright and therefore off limits - are there any
technological
> methods or procedures to inhibit reproduction of
original jpeg
> or gif images on the web? Can anyone recommend a
solution?
>
> It is fairly easy to set up a no right click java
script command
> and I have thought about watermarks a bit. But
watermarks can
> detract for the overall imagery and the script only
slows people
> down a bit.
>

Unfortunately, once an image is viewed on a user's computer,
it's
already downloaded to their machine and in their possession
- you
can't *prevent* the downloading (and use) of that image,
since they
had to download it to see it. You can slow them down and
make it more
difficult for the casual user to quickly grab the image off
of your
pages, but that's about it. The no right-click javascript is
one way
to keep most people from casually stealing your images. I
remember
hearing about "digimarks" a while back - invisible
watermarks that
some software (maybe Photoshop?) could insert into your
image before
you upload it to your server. No visible watermarking, but
you could
search on the digimark information and find anyone who is
using your
images on their websites. I don't know what the current
state is on
that technology! Good luck!


-- 
Robin Hastings
robin.hastingsgmail.com
http://www.rhastings.net

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RE: Image protection
country flaguser name
United States
2008-01-16 08:46:05
I used Dig marc  for a while, back when I did more original
graphics for
a side web page business. I was able to locate exactly one
"theft" of an
image and decided it probably wasn't worth the expense.
http://www.digim
arc.com/tech/dwm.asp 
Probably the only way to protect an image is not to publish
it to the
web... even pictures from Worth1000, with their name
scrawled across the
bottom, can be altered/photoshopped to eliminate
the'branding' with a
little time and care. My final solution was to charge
clients more for
original graphics and write them off, so to speak.

Juju

Julieanne Hartman Stevens
Reference and  Electronic Resources Librarian
Stetson University College of Law
Law Library
1401 61st Street South
Gulfport, Florida 33707
727-562-7304
Internal extension: 7304
jhstevenlaw.stetson.edu
"Most people don't realize how important librarians
are. I ran across a
book recently which suggested that the peace and prosperity
of a culture
was solely related to how many librarians it contained.
Possibly a
slight overstatement. But a culture that doesn't value its
librarians
doesn't value ideas and without ideas, well, where are
we?" Neil Gaiman

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Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Image protection

On Jan 15, 2008 5:33 PM, Robert L. Balliot
<rballiotoceanstatelibrarian.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> Other than the perceived notion that images are
protected
> by copyright and therefore off limits - are there any
technological
> methods or procedures to inhibit reproduction of
original jpeg
> or gif images on the web? Can anyone recommend a
solution?
>
> It is fairly easy to set up a no right click java
script command
> and I have thought about watermarks a bit. But
watermarks can
> detract for the overall imagery and the script only
slows people
> down a bit.
>

Unfortunately, once an image is viewed on a user's computer,
it's
already downloaded to their machine and in their possession
- you
can't *prevent* the downloading (and use) of that image,
since they
had to download it to see it. You can slow them down and
make it more
difficult for the casual user to quickly grab the image off
of your
pages, but that's about it. The no right-click javascript is
one way
to keep most people from casually stealing your images. I
remember
hearing about "digimarks" a while back - invisible
watermarks that
some software (maybe Photoshop?) could insert into your
image before
you upload it to your server. No visible watermarking, but
you could
search on the digimark information and find anyone who is
using your
images on their websites. I don't know what the current
state is on
that technology! Good luck!


-- 
Robin Hastings
robin.hastingsgmail.com
http://www.rhastings.net

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Re: Image protection
country flaguser name
United States
2008-01-16 08:51:00
Robert L. Balliot wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Other than the perceived notion that images are
protected
> by copyright and therefore off limits...


("Perceived" notion?)

The plain truth is that if something is online and people
want it, 
people can get it.  I can't imagine any technical solution
more 
effective than a simple copyright statement in the text of
the page. 
The right-click script is not only easily defeated but is
something a 
lot of browsers can be configured never to honor.  Visible
watermarks 
just deface your image and invisible watermarks only allow
you to pay 
for a search to see if the images have shown up on other web
sites.


-- 
Thomas Dowling
tdowlingohiolink.edu

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Re: Image protection
user name
2008-01-21 09:25:18
I'm also of the camp that if you don't want people to reuse
an image,
then don't make it available on the web. Regardless of what
you do
someone will circumvent it.

Never-the-less, here's another technique for inhibiting
downloads: use
Photoshop or similer to slice it up and then reassemble it
in an HTML
table for the viewer. It's an old pre-CSS technique for web
design,
but works equally well to "protect" images. ...
until the viewer opens
up SnagIt and takes a screenshot.

Tom
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Re: Image protection
user name
2008-01-21 09:25:18
I'm also of the camp that if you don't want people to reuse
an image,
then don't make it available on the web. Regardless of what
you do
someone will circumvent it.

Never-the-less, here's another technique for inhibiting
downloads: use
Photoshop or similer to slice it up and then reassemble it
in an HTML
table for the viewer. It's an old pre-CSS technique for web
design,
but works equally well to "protect" images. ...
until the viewer opens
up SnagIt and takes a screenshot.

Tom
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