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The Net at Risk
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2006-10-19 03:49:46
>	This should be on Channel 12 t.v. (NET) tonight at 9:00
p.m. ---Jim

>Moyers on America
>Megamedia corporations could restrict the Internet's
future.

Watched it.

Excellent program that presented the "Net
Neutrality" position perfectly.

If you missed it you need to catch the replay....  if it
replays.
GreyGeek



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The Net at Risk
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2006-10-19 03:54:41
On 10/18/06, GreyGeek <jkrepsneb.rr.com> wrote:
> >       This should be on Channel 12 t.v. (NET)
tonight at 9:00 p.m. ---Jim
>
> >Moyers on America
> >Megamedia corporations could restrict the
Internet's future.
>
> Watched it.
>
> Excellent program that presented the "Net
Neutrality" position perfectly.
>
> If you missed it you need to catch the replay....  if
it replays.

I'll ask the traffic ladies if it's slated for a re-air and
let you
all know.  If not I'll have to see if we have it on tape so
I can get
a copy.

Bill

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The Net at Risk
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2006-10-19 09:47:47
	I should be able to replay from my VCR, the last half hour
I did see "live" and
that looked very good also, but that had almost nothing to
do with the Internet.
 ---Jim

GreyGeek wrote:
>> 	This should be on Channel 12 t.v. (NET) tonight at
9:00 p.m. ---Jim
> 
>> Moyers on America
>> Megamedia corporations could restrict the
Internet's future.
> 
> Watched it.
> 
> Excellent program that presented the "Net
Neutrality" position perfectly.
> 
> If you missed it you need to catch the replay....  if
it replays.
> GreyGeek
> 
> 
> 
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The Net at Risk
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2006-10-19 14:40:34
Here is the info on the show.  No less than six more
showings on the
current schedule.

Moyers on the America #103
It will air again on NET 2.
Here is the air dates and times:
Today (10/19) at 10am and 3pm
Sat (10/21) at 6am, 3pm and 9pm
Sun (10/22) at 5pm.

Bill

On 10/19/06, Jim Worrest <jworresthuskeraccess.com> wrote:
>         I should be able to replay from my VCR, the
last half hour I did see "live" and
> that looked very good also, but that had almost nothing
to do with the Internet.
>  ---Jim
>
> GreyGeek wrote:
> >>      This should be on Channel 12 t.v. (NET)
tonight at 9:00 p.m. ---Jim
> >
> >> Moyers on America
> >> Megamedia corporations could restrict the
Internet's future.
> >
> > Watched it.
> >
> > Excellent program that presented the "Net
Neutrality" position perfectly.
> >
> > If you missed it you need to catch the replay.... 
if it replays.
> > GreyGeek
> >

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The Net at Risk
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2006-10-19 15:21:54
On Thursday 19 October 2006 4:47 am, Jim Worrest wrote:
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I should be able to replay from
my VCR, the last =
half hour I did
> see "live" and that looked very good also,
but that had almost nothing to
> do with the Internet. ---Jim

Actually, it tied in very well with the part of the program
you didn't see.=
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The basic idea is that like the previous technology
watersheds before the=20
Internet (telegraph, railroad, radio and TV) the giant
corporations use the=
ir=20
money to influence both politicians (which is significantly
much easier now=
=20
that "campaign contributions" can legally be
converted to private use if th=
e=20
politician doesn't run for re-election) and the voters.   We
have seen only=
=20
all to well how bribes^^^^^^ er, "campaign
contributions" have resulted in=
=20
the DMCA, and is well on the way to making the sale of PCs
sans the Microso=
ft=20
patented DRM chip illegal.   The voters are being swayed by
FUD designed to=
=20
make the phone and cable companies POV look rational.

What the first part of the program documented was  that in
the early 1990's=
 =20
communities were pushing for the installation of fiber
optics (which I=20
remember well because I had  my yard  dug up  when they
planted a fiber opt=
ic=20
cable run through it.) and the phone companies stepped in
and said "we'll=20
install the fiber optiic cables if you'll give us tax breaks
and other=20
incentives".  The phone companies got BILLIONS in
breaks but never carried=
=20
out their promise to install the fiber optics.  
Reason"   collusion betwee=
n=20
the companies and the governmental watch dog agencies  whose
job it was to=
=20
make them keep their promises.

To combat the robbers barons of the past congress finally
passed the "commo=
n=20
carrier" regulations, which outlawed the practices of
the owners of the =20
telegraph, railroad, radio and television  technologies.  
Prior to that ac=
t=20
the RR owners, for example, would give one rate to their
special friends, a=
nd=20
another, higher rate to those less favored, who soon went
out of business. =
=20
Telegraph and radio owners did the same practices.    But,
in August of 200=
5=20
congress gutted the common-carriers act, opening the door
for the formation=
=20
of radio and tv monopolies or deuopoloies.   =20

What the phone and cable companies want to  do is NOT
upgrade the copper wi=
re=20
infrastructure to more modern and hundreds of times faster
fiber optic. =20
Nooooo.  They want to avoid that expense by
"splitting" the US portion of t=
he =20
internet into a fast lane and  a slow lane,  and double dip
at both ends of=
f=20
the internet pipeline, by making certain internet sites pay
a higher rate f=
or=20
the privilege of using the faster "lane".  
Overall, the speed of the US=20
internet won't increase (it can't with just cooper wire),
its just that you=
r=20
packets will be made to take  more jumps  and have a shorter
"time  to live=
"=20
than  packets of folks who pay premium  rates. =20


The solution is  simple.   Throw the current lot of greedy
($#)(%* politici=
ans=20
out of office and vote into office folks who understand the
rights of the=20
community over the "corporations" and their paid
lobbyists, and to restore=
=20
the "common-carriers" act, and make it illegal to
charge  different rates f=
or=20
different kinds of packets.
GreyGeek


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