XML/xsltproc-based toolchain for fedora?

  hi, recent subscriber, first time poster -- i recently
became a
maintainer for one of the TLDP guides (LKMPG, if that makes
any
difference), and the internal makefile that comes with it is
based on
jade and SGML.  i'm interested in creating a new version
that uses the
newer XML/xsltproc tools.

  does anyone on this list have a working toolchain that
just drops
into a fedora 7 system that i can use for the conversion, or
at least
to start writing some new documentation?  thanks.

rday

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On 26/09/2007, Robert P. J. Day <rpjdaymindspring.com> wrote:
>
>   hi, recent subscriber, first time poster -- i
recently became a
> maintainer for one of the TLDP guides (LKMPG, if that
makes any
> difference), and the internal makefile that comes with
it is based on
> jade and SGML.  i'm interested in creating a new
version that uses the
> newer XML/xsltproc tools.
>
>   does anyone on this list have a working toolchain
that just drops
> into a fedora 7 system that i can use for the
conversion, or at least
> to start writing some new documentation?  thanks.
>
> rday
>

Hi Robert:

I can't absolutely guarantee that it will work on Fedora 7,
but
assuming you have both xsltproc (package name is often
libxslt) and
xalan installed on your system, the rest of the necessary
pieces for
good XHTML and reasonable PDF transforms can be pulled
directly from
their repositories on the Web.

I _just_ started documenting this basic process for a new
documentation project at
http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki
/doku.php?id=documentation:setting_up_docbook_transforms

- give it a shot, and let me/us know if it works for you.

Hope this helps.

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Dan Scott
Laurentian University

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Dan Scott wrote:

> On 26/09/2007, Robert P. J. Day <rpjdaymindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >   hi, recent subscriber, first time poster -- i
recently became a
> > maintainer for one of the TLDP guides (LKMPG, if
that makes any
> > difference), and the internal makefile that comes
with it is based
> > on jade and SGML.  i'm interested in creating a
new version that
> > uses the newer XML/xsltproc tools.
> >
> >   does anyone on this list have a working
toolchain that just
> > drops into a fedora 7 system that i can use for
the conversion, or
> > at least to start writing some new documentation? 
thanks.
> >
> > rday
> >
>
> Hi Robert:
>
> I can't absolutely guarantee that it will work on
Fedora 7, but
> assuming you have both xsltproc (package name is often
libxslt)

which it is

> and xalan installed on your system, the rest of the
necessary pieces
> for good XHTML and reasonable PDF transforms can be
pulled directly
> from their repositories on the Web.

i'm confused -- why would you need both xsltproc *and*
xalan?  aren't
both of them just XSLT processors?  it's kind of like saying
you need
both xsltproc and saxon, isn't it?  or am i just confused
here?

> I _just_ started documenting this basic process for a
new
> documentation project at
> http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki
/doku.php?id=documentation:setting_up_docbook_transforms

> - give it a shot, and let me/us know if it works for
you.
>
> Hope this helps.

ok, i'll give it a look.  thanks.

rday
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============
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Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

http://crashcourse.ca
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On 26/09/2007, Robert P. J. Day <rpjdaymindspring.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Dan Scott wrote:
>
> > On 26/09/2007, Robert P. J. Day <rpjdaymindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >   hi, recent subscriber, first time poster --
i recently became a
> > > maintainer for one of the TLDP guides (LKMPG,
if that makes any
> > > difference), and the internal makefile that
comes with it is based
> > > on jade and SGML.  i'm interested in creating
a new version that
> > > uses the newer XML/xsltproc tools.
> > >
> > >   does anyone on this list have a working
toolchain that just
> > > drops into a fedora 7 system that i can use
for the conversion, or
> > > at least to start writing some new
documentation?  thanks.
> > >
> > > rday
> > >
> >
> > Hi Robert:
> >
> > I can't absolutely guarantee that it will work on
Fedora 7, but
> > assuming you have both xsltproc (package name is
often libxslt)
>
> which it is
>
> > and xalan installed on your system, the rest of
the necessary pieces
> > for good XHTML and reasonable PDF transforms can
be pulled directly
> > from their repositories on the Web.
>
> i'm confused -- why would you need both xsltproc *and*
xalan?  aren't
> both of them just XSLT processors?  it's kind of like
saying you need
> both xsltproc and saxon, isn't it?  or am i just
confused here?

Ah... gee. Good point. I think somewhere in my primordial
mind I
recalled using a xalan / fop toolchain from years back, and
the Java
association got muddled into a phantom dependency. So ditch
xalan,
then. All I'm using is xsltproc.

-- 
Dan Scott
Laurentian University

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On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:37:27AM -0400, Dan Scott wrote:
> On 26/09/2007, Robert P. J. Day <rpjdaymindspring.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Dan Scott wrote:
> >
> > i'm confused -- why would you need both xsltproc
*and* xalan?  aren't
> > both of them just XSLT processors?  it's kind of
like saying you need
> > both xsltproc and saxon, isn't it?  or am i just
confused here?
> 
> Ah... gee. Good point. I think somewhere in my
primordial mind I
> recalled using a xalan / fop toolchain from years back,
and the Java
> association got muddled into a phantom dependency. So
ditch xalan,
> then. All I'm using is xsltproc.

AFAIK xsltproc can not make e.g. PDF.  It can make HTML from
XML, but
for PDF you need to make a formatted object with xsltproc
and then
process that object.  I tried some time ago to make a
diagram that
explains the procedure:

http://www.l
inuxjournal.com/article/7740

I think this is still the way it is done.

Machtelt.

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