Re: Test--why did I get a "bounce" message from majordomo@vpnc.org?

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 01:46:03PM +0000, Sergiusz Pawlowicz
wrote:
> On 11/5/07, Randy Kramer <rhkramergmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Anybody know why?
> 
> Yes, it was discussed here several times.
> Answer: somebody subscribed again to our list and is
sending
> a vacation type automatic answer if you write anything
to the list.

But this is from majordomovpnc.org.  It's the list
server at
vpnc.org and this server seems to be effectively subscribed
to our
mailing list.  Since it's hard to directly subscribe a list
server to
our mailing list, the problem is most likely due to an
ordinary
subscriber on the mailing list forwarding all messages from
the list
to the majordomo list server.  Sam Varshavchik showed how to
send out
a test message to the list that is different for each
recipient and
contains the name (or other ID) of the recipient so that
this name is
bounced back by majordomo.  Has this been tried?  Then the
"guilty"
subscriber is identified and can be removed from the list. 
But the
"guilty" subscriber could just have an infected PC
and not actually be
to blame.

Someone on vacation?  I've been seeing similar messages for
months
from vpnc.org.  Why would someone on vacation forward their
email to
majordomo?

			David Lawyer

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On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:39:23PM -0800, David Lawyer
wrote:
> But this is from majordomovpnc.org.  It's the list
server at
> vpnc.org and this server seems to be effectively
subscribed to our
> mailing list.  Since it's hard to directly subscribe a
list server to

I should have said "majordomo" instead of
"list server".  Majordomo is
the list server manager while the "list server"
that I wrote above
could be construed as the computer that handles the mailing
list.

An interesting result: I sent a couple of inquiries to this
Majordomo
from my PC and also went to the vpnc.org site.  Per
Majordomo they
have no mailing lists and per the site they had an IPsec
list but gave
it up.  I tried "info IPsec" to Majordomo and they
report no such
list.  So there may be no mailing lists there which means no
one
checks logs for errors, etc.  vpnc is Virtual Private
Network
Consortium which I think is legit.  If there are no lists
there, I
could ask them to shut it down which would fix the problem.

			David Lawyer

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