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Re: Shooting at VT?
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Portugal
2007-04-16 13:00:39
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> Thank you Rui for your concern. I am fine. The last I
heard there are 29
> dead and 20+ wounded. Terrible stuff...
> 
> Ico

Good to know you're OK. The time I've read about it was on
VT, the first
thing that rendered some concern on my mind was just you.

Terrible it's most probably not enough an expression. I'm
afraid it's
the biggest killing on a US campus?

Glad you're fine.
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Re: Shooting at VT?
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United States
2007-04-16 21:23:42
>Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>Terrible it's most probably not enough an expression.
I'm afraid it's
>the biggest killing on a US campus?


I think the 'Bath School Disaster' (1927) is still the
deadliest attack at a 
US school... 45 killed 58 injured (mostly elementary school
students) ...not 
that we're looking to break records or anything.

As terrible as this is I have to say I'm impressed with the
quick reaction 
reported in the BBC article by some students that probably
saved another 30 
lives by quicly blocking their door and laying down to hold
it shut.  My 
MOUT training is limited but I have to say, that was pretty
on the ball for 
college students...

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Re: Shooting at VT?
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United States
2007-04-16 21:31:33
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 10:23:42PM -0400, sam javor wrote:
> >Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >Terrible it's most probably not enough an
expression. I'm afraid it's
> >the biggest killing on a US campus?
> 
> 
> I think the 'Bath School Disaster' (1927) is still the
deadliest attack at a US school... 45 killed 58 injured
(mostly elementary school students) ...not that we're
looking to break records or 
> anything.
> 
> As terrible as this is I have to say I'm impressed with
the quick reaction reported in the BBC article by some
students that probably saved another 30 lives by quicly
blocking their door and laying 
> down to hold it shut.  My MOUT training is limited but
I have to say, that was pretty on the ball for college
students...

pretty on the ball for not finding the gunman for 2 hours
after the first shots

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Re: Shooting at VT?
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United States
2007-04-16 21:34:15
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 10:23:42PM -0400, sam javor wrote:
> >Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >Terrible it's most probably not enough an
expression. I'm afraid it's
> >the biggest killing on a US campus?
> 
> 
> I think the 'Bath School Disaster' (1927) is still the
deadliest attack at a US school... 45 killed 58 injured
(mostly elementary school students) ...not that we're
looking to break records or 
> anything.
> 
> As terrible as this is I have to say I'm impressed with
the quick reaction reported in the BBC article

speaking of the BBC, does anyone know a free way to tune
into the World Service, preferably digitally? theyv
discontinued their shortwave transmissions to north america
and western europe, so even in ideal propagation, the only
possibilities are remote signals, and coupled with the 60 hz
hum of power lines, and random other hums of other devices,
plus the blockage from urban density, tuning in the
shortwave is more or less out of the question,

as for the streams, afaik its only realaudio and/or windows
media. 

apparently there are some FM stations in the US and
elsewhere that carry a half hour of BBC here or there to
fill out their schedules, but from what i can find, all the
streams are also real/wmv or 24 kbps mp3 which is actually
physically painful to listen to.

am i missing something? or is the BBC just out of touch with
the realities of digital delivery..
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Re: Shooting at VT?
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United States
2007-04-16 21:54:03
> > down to hold it shut.  My MOUT training is limited
but I have to say,
that was pretty on the ball for college students...
>
> pretty on the ball for not finding the gunman for 2
hours after the first
shots

He was talking about the students being on the ball, dork.

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Re: BBC Audio
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United States
2007-04-16 22:47:28
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 11:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Vecchione
wrote:
> >as for the streams, afaik its only realaudio and/or
windows media. 
> 
> Last I had to play them(A couple months ago) I could
play the streams by opening the URL in VLC.

its not so much that theyre unplayable, its that you have to
enable codecs in mplayer, then usually the browser
determines youre lacking the proper plugin, so doesnt ev en
send you to the page where you can view source and look for
something resembling an audio URL in an <embed> tag,
otherwise you reconstruct it from the javascript..

then youre rewarded with some 16kbps dreck which fatigues
your ears after a bout 3 seconds since its like a set of
knives digging into your eardrums with the most awful
psychoacoustically-masked crap ever.

i guess i'll just avoid the BBC until they bring back the
ogg streams..
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Re: Re: BBC Audio
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United States
2007-04-16 23:26:45
> its not so much that theyre unplayable

actually, this is the case.

"The BBC has recently taken the decision to move all of
its digital audio content to WMA format (Windows Media
Audio.)"

Playing
mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/
13050/v0001/reflector:38288.
STREAM_ASF, URL:
mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/
13050/v0001/reflector:38288
Resolving a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net for
AF_INET...
Connecting to server
a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net[204.2.192.59]
: 1755...
Connected
unknown object
unknown object
file object, packet length = 1119 (1119)
unknown object
stream object, stream ID: 1
unknown object
unknown object
data object
mmst packet_length = 1119
Cache size set to 64 KBytes
Cache fill: 12.50% (8192 bytes)   
ASF file format detected.
Clip info:
 name: Live news and information
 author: BBC World Service
 copyright: (C) British Broadcasting Corporation 2007
============================================================
==============
Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo) not
available.
Enable it at compilation.
Requested audio codec family [wma9spdshow] (afm=dshow) not
available.
Enable it at compilation.
Cannot find codec for audio format 0xA.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
Audio: no sound
Video: no video


Exiting... (End of file)



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Re: Re: BBC Audio
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United States
2007-04-17 00:00:06
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 00:26, carmen wrote:
> Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo)
> not available. Enable it at compilation.
> Requested audio codec family [wma9spdshow] (afm=dshow)
not
> available. Enable it at compilation.
> Cannot find codec for audio format 0xA.
> Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
> Audio: no sound
> Video: no video

Works fine for me.... 

Cache size set to 64 KBytes
Cache fill: 12.50% (8192 bytes)
ASF file format detected.
Clip info:
 name: Live news and information
 author: BBC World Service
 copyright: (C) British Broadcasting Corporation 2007
============================================================
==============
Opening audio decoder: [dmo] Win32/DMO decoders
GetOutput r=0x0   size:16384  align:1
StreamCount r=0x0  1  1
AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 20.0 kbit/5.67% (ratio: 
2500->44100)
Selected audio codec: [wma9spdmo] afm: dmo (Windows Media
Audio 9 
Speech DMO)
============================================================
==============
alsa-init: using device default
alsa: 48000 Hz/1 channels/2 bpf/32768 bytes buffer/Signed 16
bit 
Little Endian
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A:  93.9 (01:33.9) of 0.0 (unknown)  6.9% 3%  

They're talking about Manchester United, as someone only
vaguely 
familiar with British culture might expect people over there
to 
be doing at any given time.  dpkg tells me:

ii  mplayer                               
0.99+1.0-pre8-0ubuntu4                 
The Ultimate Movie Player
ii  w32codecs                              20061022-0.0     
                     
win32 binary codecs

Kubuntu 6.06 here, so I'm not exactly bleeding-edge. 
Obviously 
I'd rather they were broadcasting in Ogg or MP3, but I don't

actually listen to the BBC so at least they're more 
Linux-friendly than, say, XM/AOL Radio.

Rob
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Re: Re: BBC Audio
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United States
2007-04-17 00:06:45
carmen wrote:

> "The BBC has recently taken the decision to move
all of its digital audio content to WMA format (Windows
Media Audio.)"

Go to the MPlayer Download page and download the essential
Binaries 
Codec Package. You'll need to install those files in
/usr/local/lib/win32.

http://www
.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

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