Re: Incubator Proposal

>>>>> "Curt" == Curt Arnold
<carnoldapache.org> writes:

    Curt> I've updated the proposal with a spelling fix,
added Michael
    Curt> Schmitz as a developer, and changed the
Documentation
    Curt> section from a link to the pre-Apache
documentation to a
    Curt> description of the documentation development
plans.  I
    Curt> reviewed Michael Schmitz's SyslogAppender
posting
    Curt> (http://www.ma
il-archive.com/log4php-devlogging.apache.org/
    Curt> msg00120.html) expecting to use that to show
prior history
    Curt> of contribution to the project and it mentioned
that the
    Curt> enhancement was done by a colleague
    Curt> (roberto.gonzalez-luengotietoenator.com).

    Curt> Submission of a work that is not your original
creation is
    Curt> addressed in section 7 of the CLA.  However, it
places a
    Curt> pretty serious burden on the receiving project
and should be
    Curt> avoided where possible.  Generally, it is
better to solicit
    Curt> the original author to resubmit the
contribution.  That
    Curt> said, it raises a couple of issues:

    Curt> Is Roberto a potential contributor or
committer?

No, Roberto left our project and will definitely not not
contribute
anything.

    Curt> Has tietonator.com assigned or may assign
employees to work
    Curt> on Log4PHP enhancements and if so, would the
company be
    Curt> willing to execute a CCLA to clarify the IP
issues?

As far as I know - but TietoEnator is a huge company - our
project is
the only one where Log4PHP is used. Therefore I do expect
other TE
employees, than the members of my team, to contribute to
Log4PHP. As
regards our project team, I am the one responsible for
Log4PHP and the
PHP5 port. Therefore I think no one else will contribute or
commit
anything.

    Curt> Was Michael anticipating contributing
personally or was he
    Curt> planning on contributing the works of others?

I am planning to contribute my own work only.


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On Jun 28, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote:

>
>     Curt> Has tietonator.com assigned or may assign
employees to work
>     Curt> on Log4PHP enhancements and if so, would
the company be
>     Curt> willing to execute a CCLA to clarify the
IP issues?
>
> As far as I know - but TietoEnator is a huge company -
our project is
> the only one where Log4PHP is used. Therefore I do
expect other TE
> employees, than the members of my team, to contribute
to Log4PHP. As
> regards our project team, I am the one responsible for
Log4PHP and the
> PHP5 port. Therefore I think no one else will
contribute or commit
> anything.
>     Curt> Was Michael anticipating contributing
personally or was he
>     Curt> planning on contributing the works of
others?
>
> I am planning to contribute my own work only.
>

Review the description of CLAs and CCLAs on http://www.apache.org/ 
licenses to see if you think your situation would require a
CCLA, but  
we can proceed with just your CLA.

> The proposal is fine from my personal point of view.
Since I cannot
> apply any changes to the personal, here's some
background information
> on myself:
>   - Master of Computer Science
>   - Project Manager at TietoEnator, Cologne, Germany
>   - Contributed to various Open Source projects like
CVS, SCWM,
>     bk2site, etc.

I believe that anyone with a valid email address can set up
a Wiki  
account and make modifications.

I spent a week in Leverkusen (sp?) about 10 years ago and
really  
enjoyed being in the area.