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Re: guides & helps...
user name
2007-12-17 17:06:24
I just added the help-pages to the tool-bar options. If you
click
'Edit' now instead of one of the options in the drop-down,
you get a
page with a listing of the options + a short explanation
(same as in
the tooltips).

The styling is still just acceptable, but nothing fanct.
Later on we
would want these in an AJAXified pop-over help-box, with the
rest of
the page greyed out or something like that, but what I added
today is
just for the coming time...

And something that's even more stub-like, are the 2 guides I
added
today to give an impression of my ideas for them. Have a
look at:

http://en.logilogi.org:3000
/do/logi/new_guide/Logi_Logi=Eduard_Edison_1=v2?active=new

and at:

http://en.logi-manta.org:3000/do/logi/
comment/Logi_Logi=Eduard_Edison_1=v2

These are 2 / 4 - step guides for creating a logi with
different tags
resp for adding a comment.

The comment-guide requires that we can have the user to
select text
inside a button-less version of the WYSIWYG-editor, and then
when
submit is clicked it should be able to invoke some
link-insert action
in the editor via JS. Might be tricky with TinyMCE.

greetings,

Wybo

PS: Tomorrow evening I won't be online as I then will be
having
dinner with the Philosophers of History of the Center for
Metahistory
Groningen...

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Re: guides & helps...
user name
2007-12-17 17:07:56
> and at:

Must be:

> http://en.logilogi.org:3000/do/logi/comm
ent/Logi_Logi=Eduard_Edison_1=v2

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Re: guides & helps...
user name
2007-12-18 02:15:30
On Dec 17, 2007 8:06 PM, Wybo Wiersma <wybologilogi.org> wrote:
> I just added the help-pages to the tool-bar options. If
you click
> 'Edit' now instead of one of the options in the
drop-down, you get a
> page with a listing of the options + a short
explanation (same as in
> the tooltips).
>
I think it's great to work through wizards as they help
allot to
understand as they give the opportunity to explain. I would
also
incorporate some kind of help icon (?) that could be placed
wherever
it's needed to give extra information in the form of
tool-tips.

> The styling is still just acceptable, but nothing
fanct. Later on we
> would want these in an AJAXified pop-over help-box,
with the rest of
> the page greyed out or something like that, but what I
added today is
> just for the coming time...
>
This could actually be done in a very nice way with the
lightbox or
thickbox JS libraries and works very smoothly, and I don't
think it's
very hard to place the content inside. I guess you know the
libraries
which are everywhere this days. http://jquery.com/de
mo/thickbox/

Actually thickbox has a login demo in the ajax examples.

> And something that's even more stub-like, are the 2
guides I added
> today to give an impression of my ideas for them. Have
a look at:
>
> http://en.logilogi.org:3000
/do/logi/new_guide/Logi_Logi=Eduard_Edison_1=v2?active=new
>
> and at:
>
> http://en.logi-manta.org:3000/do/logi/
comment/Logi_Logi=Eduard_Edison_1=v2
>
> These are 2 / 4 - step guides for creating a logi with
different tags
> resp for adding a comment.
>
> The comment-guide requires that we can have the user to
select text
> inside a button-less version of the WYSIWYG-editor, and
then when
> submit is clicked it should be able to invoke some
link-insert action
> in the editor via JS. Might be tricky with TinyMCE.
>
I'll repeat that this wizard things are excellent are giving
a very
nice/friendly feel to manta, I wonder which other ideas you
are still
waiting to release...  Joking,
and I know you had already talked
about the wizards, but seeing it shows it better and
triggers a lot of
ideas too...

we should definitely go this way and make it fully
ajaxyfied...

I also believe Miguel should get more involved as he likes
to play
with all this JS libraries a lot, and we've been working
with all this
stuff for some time now, so he can contribute a lot on this
I
believe...  I hope he gets the time.

> greetings,
>
> Wybo
>
> PS: Tomorrow evening I won't be online as I then will
be having
> dinner with the Philosophers of History of the Center
for Metahistory
> Groningen...
>
Bon appétit!

later!
-- 
Bruno

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Re: guides & helps...
user name
2007-12-19 14:45:05
> understand as they give the opportunity to explain. I
would also
> incorporate some kind of help icon (?) that could be
placed wherever
> it's needed to give extra information in the form of
tool-tips.

Sounds like a good idea...

> > The styling is still just acceptable, but nothing
fanct. Later on we
> > would want these in an AJAXified pop-over
help-box, with the rest of
> > the page greyed out or something like that, but
what I added today is
> > just for the coming time...
>
> This could actually be done in a very nice way with the
lightbox or
> thickbox JS libraries and works very smoothly, and I
don't think it's
> very hard to place the content inside. I guess you know
the libraries
> which are everywhere this days. http://jquery.com/de
mo/thickbox/

Looks superb... (only the animation might be too slow, but
it can
probably appear instantly...)

> > submit is clicked it should be able to invoke some
link-insert action
> > in the editor via JS. Might be tricky with
TinyMCE.
>
> I'll repeat that this wizard things are excellent are
giving a very
> nice/friendly feel to manta, I wonder which other ideas
you are still
> waiting to release...  Joking,
and I know you had already talked
> about the wizards, but seeing it shows it better and
triggers a lot of
> ideas too...



> we should definitely go this way and make it fully
ajaxyfied...
> 
> I also believe Miguel should get more involved as he
likes to play
> with all this JS libraries a lot, and we've been
working with all this
> stuff for some time now, so he can contribute a lot on
this I
> believe...  I hope he gets the time.

Cool, I hope so too..!

Wybo

PS: Working on my essay for now again... Will be online
tomorrow-
evening...

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