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Re: Happy News!
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2008-02-19 22:44:03
This comments are very interesting, as you said, mostly to
know where
to read/explore next, and to know the concrete first
impression of
people who actually evaluated the project.

We should get down to work on the paper, I'll work on it and
comment later.

Congratz Wybo and all.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Wybo Wiersma <wybologilogi.org> wrote:
> The comments of the reviewers were as follows...:
>
>  --- Reviewer 3
>
>  Content
>  8
>  (10%) Significance
>  8
>  (10%) Originality
>  8
>  (10%) Relevance
>  8
>  (10%) Presentation
>  8
>  (10%) Recommendation
>  9
>  (50%) Total points (out of 100)
>  85
>
>  Contribution of the submission:
>
>  This contribution describes an application of IT to
the facilitation
>  of academic discussion, specifically in the field of
philosophy, but
>  seemingly applicable in other related fields. The case
for the tool's
>  overcoming the limitations of other fora is well made
>
>  Comments for the authors:
>
>  The English expression here isn't perfect, although
it's good. There
>  is the odd jar, such as the widely split infinite
"hopes to -- . . .--
>  allow" on page one. The reference to short texts
being no more than "a
>  few pages" gave me a jolt too: what's a page, in
this context? Since
>  we can get HTTP content on our tiny cell-phone screens
(say, a couple
>  of hundred thousand pixels) and on huge plasma screens
(many millions
>  of pixels) the notion of a 'page' is puzzling and
precisely an example
>  of the 'horseless carriage' principle the description
goes on to
>  outline.
>
>  The idea of giving people voting power as peer
reviewers according to
>  how well their own material is reviewed is intriguing
and the
>  practical consequences could have been explored more
fully. For
>  example, what's to stop a team of self-congratulators
mutually
>  approving one another's work to bump up their ratings?
(We know this
>  happens in citation-index approval ratings.)
>
>  The last part of this description, the link to Lyotard
and Derrida's
>  ideas, was, for me, the weakest part of it. Indeed, it
could even be
>  said to be gratuitous, since the meta-narratives that
these
>  philosophers claimed are no longer believable
(Marxism, Feminism, and
>  so on) are not really relevant to the transformations
of textuality
>  that e-text and the web medium perform. (Or at least,
if you want to
>  convince a sceptic like me that they are--that the web
is inherently
>  post-modern in the politico-philosophical sense--then
you need to say
>  quite a bit more to be convincing.)
>
>  --- Reviewer 2
>
>  Content
>  6
>  (10%) Significance
>  8
>  (10%) Originality
>  6
>  (10%) Relevance
>  8
>  (10%) Presentation
>  6
>  (10%) Recommendation
>  8
>  (50%) Total points (out of 100)
>  74
>
>  Contribution of the submission:
>
>  The authors outline the form of a textbase which will
accept brief
>  commentaries on philosophical issues while
assimilating outside
>  criticism of these. The work is meant to bridge the
uncomfortable gap
>  between inefficient web forums and overly rigid and
formalized
>  academic publication.
>
>  Comments for the authors:
>
>  This is a highly speculative project and it is
difficult to offer
>  prediction as to its results or acceptance among
academics.  What the
>  reviewer hopes for here is ample and clear coding
examples, and
>  examples of the possible results such a platform might
produce.  These
>  will enlighten readers as to the wider possibilities
of the project.
>
>  The authors' attempt to place their project within the
history of
>  language, philosophical communication, critical
theory, etc. is
>  strained and unclear.  It is not necessary for their
project to try to
>  produce a chronology of where hypertextual
communication fits in the
>  history of the Western episteme.  This is a separate
topic and an
>  unnecessary one for this purpose.  It is more of a
footnote than part
>  of the paper.
>
>  --- Reviewer 1
>
>  Content
>  6
>  (10%) Significance
>  8
>  (10%) Originality
>  6
>  (10%) Relevance
>  10
>  (10%) Presentation
>  10
>  (10%) Recommendation
>  8
>  (50%) Total points (out of 100)
>  80
>
>  Comments for the authors:
>
>  A very interesting project, highly relevant, 
important, intriguing.
>  There will be a good discussion. I hope there is room
for it at the
>  conference.
>
>  Criticisms:
>
>  *) Not enough specific indication of actual
functionality to assess
>  the uniqueness of the contribution, or even know
exactly what it is.
>
>  *) Theoretical discussion not well-connected with the
actual
>  objectives and strategies of the project.
>
>  *) Ignores the amount of relevant work on scholarly
communication and
>  hypertext in general. Should be contextualized within
this literature.
>  And other related current behaviors, such as wikis,
blogs, etc.
>
>  *) [[And more specifically it might even, I'm not
sure, underestimate
>  a bit work specifically on philosophy and
computer-supported
>  communication; ranging, I think, from article
repositories (I mention
>  that as a contrast) to structured
argumentation/annotation ... at
>  least I have the impression that there is relevant
work along these
>  lines. Maybe not.]]
>
>  *) A possible interesting question: can logic-chopping
analytic
>  foundationalist absolutists use such a tool quite
happily, even though
>  they detest Lyotard, Latour, Derrida, et al.?  Would
they have other
>  explanations for why it works for them?
>
>  A very interesting project, highly relevant, 
important, intriguing.
>  There will be a good discussion. I hope there is room
for it at the
>  conference.
>
>  ---
>
>  I think we can do something with this... We have until
the 25th of
>  March to make small changes to our abstract... But
more in general
>  I know a bit more about what to read / explore next
now...
>
>
>
>  Wybo 
>
> 
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