Faceting question

I've been struggling with this a bit so here goes:

I'm using faceting to get some results. I also want to get
another field -
the id field along with it. Is it possible to get that
somehow in the facet
results?

Thanks!

: I'm using faceting to get some results. I also want to get
another field -
: the id field along with it. Is it possible to get that
somehow in the facet
: results?

you're going to have to elaborate on what it is you are
trying to do ... i 
genuinely have no idea what you are asking (and i think i'm
usually pretty 
good at reading between the lines and guessing what people
mean).



-Hoss

You mean, when it says that facet term "foo" has
10 documents, you want
those 10 ids? I think that will require a further query from
your
application.

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cric Digs [mailto:cricdigsgmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:43 PM
To: solr-userlucene.apache.org
Subject: Faceting question

I've been struggling with this a bit so here goes:

I'm using faceting to get some results. I also want to get
another field
- the id field along with it. Is it possible to get that
somehow in the
facet results?

Thanks!

lol I agree with you Hoss - sorry for that

Here's the thing:
I need additional information from the index - such as the
id related to a
facet field. For example, say I am faceting on author names
for a book
store, I would also like to get the author id along with the
author name to
show a link (next to the author name) to say the author's
bio page. The
author id is stored in the index but how do i get that back
with the facet
results?


On 9/20/07, Chris Hostetter <hossman_lucenefucit.org> wrote:
>
>
> : I'm using faceting to get some results. I also want
to get another field
> -
> : the id field along with it. Is it possible to get
that somehow in the
> facet
> : results?
>
> you're going to have to elaborate on what it is you are
trying to do ... i
> genuinely have no idea what you are asking (and i think
i'm usually pretty
> good at reading between the lines and guessing what
people mean).
>
>
>
> -Hoss
>
>

Faceting works on the terms in an index, so you can't get
information
beyond those terms without doing extra work. You could build
an extra
index used only for faceting that concatenates the
information you need
from other fields, and then parse it out in your
application: e.g.
"Tolkien, J.R.R.|35421".

If you're doing this so that you can do precise follow-on
searches,
though (where a user clicks on a link in a list of facets),
you might
want to think about whether the author name gives you
everything you
need. You may have two authors with the same name, who would
show up as
a single facet if you don't tack the id on; but even if you
do, how is
the user going to distinguish them? They'll just see two
links, maybe
with opaque id numbers. So maybe the bare author name is
good enough. (I
had a similar situation and found that getting away from a
relational-database approach and going with what Solr does
best was the
best solution).

Hope that helps,

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cric Digs [mailto:cricdigsgmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:36 AM
To: solr-userlucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Faceting question

lol I agree with you Hoss - sorry for that

Here's the thing:
I need additional information from the index - such as the
id related to
a facet field. For example, say I am faceting on author
names for a book
store, I would also like to get the author id along with the
author name
to show a link (next to the author name) to say the author's
bio page.
The author id is stored in the index but how do i get that
back with the
facet results?


On 9/20/07, Chris Hostetter <hossman_lucenefucit.org> wrote:
>
>
> : I'm using faceting to get some results. I also want
to get another 
> field
> -
> : the id field along with it. Is it possible to get
that somehow in 
> the facet
> : results?
>
> you're going to have to elaborate on what it is you are
trying to do 
> ... i genuinely have no idea what you are asking (and i
think i'm 
> usually pretty good at reading between the lines and
guessing what
people mean).
>
>
>
> -Hoss
>
>

Thanks Peter. That will be my work-around, but I was hoping
to find a more
elegant solution ;)
I am not that knowledgeable about the solr architecture but
if there is a
way it can be done in a more elegant way I might be willing
to put the extra
time to code it..


Binkley, Peter wrote:
> 
> Faceting works on the terms in an index, so you can't
get information
> beyond those terms without doing extra work. You could
build an extra
> index used only for faceting that concatenates the
information you need
> from other fields, and then parse it out in your
application: e.g.
> "Tolkien, J.R.R.|35421".
> 
> If you're doing this so that you can do precise
follow-on searches,
> though (where a user clicks on a link in a list of
facets), you might
> want to think about whether the author name gives you
everything you
> need. You may have two authors with the same name, who
would show up as
> a single facet if you don't tack the id on; but even if
you do, how is
> the user going to distinguish them? They'll just see
two links, maybe
> with opaque id numbers. So maybe the bare author name
is good enough. (I
> had a similar situation and found that getting away
from a
> relational-database approach and going with what Solr
does best was the
> best solution).
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cric Digs [mailto:cricdigsgmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:36 AM
> To: solr-userlucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Faceting question
> 
> lol I agree with you Hoss - sorry for that
> 
> Here's the thing:
> I need additional information from the index - such as
the id related to
> a facet field. For example, say I am faceting on author
names for a book
> store, I would also like to get the author id along
with the author name
> to show a link (next to the author name) to say the
author's bio page.
> The author id is stored in the index but how do i get
that back with the
> facet results?
> 
> 
> On 9/20/07, Chris Hostetter <hossman_lucenefucit.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> : I'm using faceting to get some results. I also
want to get another 
>> field
>> -
>> : the id field along with it. Is it possible to get
that somehow in 
>> the facet
>> : results?
>>
>> you're going to have to elaborate on what it is you
are trying to do 
>> ... i genuinely have no idea what you are asking
(and i think i'm 
>> usually pretty good at reading between the lines
and guessing what
> people mean).
>>
>>
>>
>> -Hoss
>>
>>
> 
> 

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Hey, that's the shift in outlook I was talking about: if
this were
MySQL, that would be a work-around; in Solr, building
multiple indexes
for special purposes IS the elegant solution! (Though
creating a new
fieldtype that does the concatenation automatically from two
or more
other fields, like a copyfield, would be nice). Any other
approach will
probably cut drastically into Solr's amazing speed at
generating facets,
since it will require touching the documents or other
indexes at query
time.

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: cricdigs [mailto:cricdigsgmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:04 AM
To: solr-userlucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Faceting question



Thanks Peter. That will be my work-around, but I was hoping
to find a
more elegant solution ;) I am not that knowledgeable about
the solr
architecture but if there is a way it can be done in a more
elegant way
I might be willing to put the extra time to code it..


Binkley, Peter wrote:
> 
> Faceting works on the terms in an index, so you can't
get information 
> beyond those terms without doing extra work. You could
build an extra 
> index used only for faceting that concatenates the
information you 
> need from other fields, and then parse it out in your
application:
e.g.
> "Tolkien, J.R.R.|35421".
> 
> If you're doing this so that you can do precise
follow-on searches, 
> though (where a user clicks on a link in a list of
facets), you might 
> want to think about whether the author name gives you
everything you 
> need. You may have two authors with the same name, who
would show up 
> as a single facet if you don't tack the id on; but even
if you do, how

> is the user going to distinguish them? They'll just see
two links, 
> maybe with opaque id numbers. So maybe the bare author
name is good 
> enough. (I had a similar situation and found that
getting away from a 
> relational-database approach and going with what Solr
does best was 
> the best solution).
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cric Digs [mailto:cricdigsgmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:36 AM
> To: solr-userlucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Faceting question
> 
> lol I agree with you Hoss - sorry for that
> 
> Here's the thing:
> I need additional information from the index - such as
the id related 
> to a facet field. For example, say I am faceting on
author names for a

> book store, I would also like to get the author id
along with the 
> author name to show a link (next to the author name) to
say the
author's bio page.
> The author id is stored in the index but how do i get
that back with 
> the facet results?
> 
> 
> On 9/20/07, Chris Hostetter <hossman_lucenefucit.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> : I'm using faceting to get some results. I also
want to get another 
>> field
>> -
>> : the id field along with it. Is it possible to get
that somehow in 
>> the facet
>> : results?
>>
>> you're going to have to elaborate on what it is you
are trying to do 
>> ... i genuinely have no idea what you are asking
(and i think i'm 
>> usually pretty good at reading between the lines
and guessing what
> people mean).
>>
>>
>>
>> -Hoss
>>
>>
> 
> 

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