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Website
user name
2008-03-18 15:22:54
I have built my website through Frontpage because I do not know how to build it without.  It is about a 40 page website and while reading through Google on how to make the search more beneficial it said we need Lynx.  I am unfamiliar with Lynx and although I read several information pages, I am still lost. ;
 
Any help you can offer is appreciated!
 ;
Donna Warren
Metropolitan Designs & Decor, Inc.
Furnishings that last a lifetime!
214.748.7445 phone
214.748.3325 fax
metropolitandesigns.us href="mailto:dwarrenmetropolitandesigns.us">dwarrenmetropolitandesigns.us
www.metropolitandesigns.us
Re: Website
user name
2008-03-18 22:40:16
On 3/18/08, Donna Warren <dwarrenmetropolitandesigns.us>
wrote:
>
> I have built my website through Frontpage because I do
not know how to build
> it without.  It is about a 40 page website and while
reading through Google
> on how to make the search more beneficial it said we
need Lynx.  I am
> unfamiliar with Lynx and although I read several
information pages, I am
> still lost.

The lynx browser provides what is thought to be a similar
view of the
web to the Googlebot crawler, which ultimately results in
the indexing
of your website.

If you view your website with lynx and it still appears to
be on
topic, with relevant text and usable navigation, it should
be seen
appropriately by Googlebot. The content and ultimate search
ranking
and positioning have nothing to do with lynx, but the
visibility and
navigability for any search robot is similar.

Assuming you use windows, there is a version that "just
works" at

http://caunter.ca/lynx.zip


Just extract the files and click on install.bat. There are 3
lines of
help at the bottom of the screeen which you will need to
carefully
read, but you will be able to view your website in text if
you type
'G' and then the address.

Hope that helps.

Stefan Caunter
http://caunter.ca/

>
> Any help you can offer is appreciated!
>
> Donna Warren
> Metropolitan Designs & Decor, Inc.
> Furnishings that last a lifetime!
> 214.748.7445 phone
> 214.748.3325 fax
> dwarrenmetropolitandesigns.us
> www.metropolitandesigns.us


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Re: Website
country flaguser name
United Kingdom
2008-03-19 09:20:05
Donna Warren wrote:
> 
> I have built my website through Frontpage because I do
not know how 
> to build it without.  It is about a 40 page website and
while reading 

These are not good signs.

> through Google on how to make the search more
beneficial it said we need 
> Lynx.  I am unfamiliar with Lynx and although I read
several information 
> pages, I am still lost. 

If you are lost, it almost certainly means that the page is
not good for 
search engine indexing.
>  
> Any help you can offer is appreciated!

Tab to go from link to link.  Return to activate a link. 
Left arrow to 
return a level.  Page forward and back.  If you cannot
access the whole 
indexable site using just these, or if the result is
gibberish to the 
extent that indexing that gibberish would not produce a
sensible index, 
with sensible text, when viewed at a detail level (the hit
context that 
Google returns), it is not suitable for search engines. 
(Note there are 
  alternative keystrokes for performing many of the the
above navigation 
operations.)

If the result is indexable gibberish, it is still bad HTML,
but may be 
good enough for search engines and unsophisticated GUI
browser users. 
(On the other hand, it is still possible to create a good
appearance on 
Lynx, and good indexability, without the HTML being well
written. - Lynx 
has some error recovery and it is still possible to mis-use,
or fail to 
use, proper heading markup.)

The best way of writing HTML is to write the document, in
plain text, 
with no markup other than the odd single or double newline. 
Then add 
appropriate markup.  Finally use CSS to style it.

In practice, you can violate this a bit by using table based
layout, 
providing that the text in each table cell is self
contained, from the 
point of view of indexing and returning hit contexts.

HTML was originally designed to allow ordinary people to
mark up 
documents.  That's still possible until you start thinking
that 
appearance is more important than content.  Most web pages
are trying to 
abuse HTML as something more like PDF.

If appearance is too important, consider using PDF, i.e. the
right tool 
for that job, but make sure you construct it using a word
processor type 
tool, not a graphics tool, so that there are machine
identifiable 
sentences and paragraphs in the document.

Note that, at least some versions of Frontpage are heavily
reliant on 
specific error recovery in Internet Explorer, and I don't
think any are 
capable of creating good HTML unless you understand how to
hand code 
HTML. In general, HTML authoring tools need to be treated as

productivity aids for people who understand HTML, not as
substitutes for 
that understanding.

For what its worth, the obvious web site for your email
address doesn't 
look too bad in Lynx.  It has some obvious violations, but
it looks like 
it is not so over-designed as to be difficult for search
engines.

The one problem that it has for search engines is the splash
page.  Look 
at the major sites; none of them use splash pages.  Also
note that 
Google are reported to favour hits on the home page in their
page 
ranking algorithms; the splash page is that site's home
page.  The sites 
needs to replace the home page with the current Intro page.

It might also help to tone down the use of marketing
language on that 
page as nobody searches for "lifestyle", etc. 
(Generally try and have 
lots of facts and use the language that your prospects would
use, e.g. 
research to see if they really look for "Olde
Worlde", rather than some 
synonym or more specific period term.  It is no good using
emotive 
wording if the prospect will not consider searching on those
words.)

(For the GUI browsers, it needs to specify a fallback font
that users 
will actually have on their machines!  The site also needs
checking with 
http://validator.w3.org/
as it contains basic HTML syntax errors.)
-- 
David Woolley
Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses
may want.
RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a
world of spam,
that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may
not work.


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