Re: Disgusted

I think that it's kind of interesting that the two hyperlinks furnished below, that go to
Verizon, do not go to the individual agreements, but go to a sign-up page where you need
to type in your own specific information. No wonder everybody here is up in arms; one
feeling that you're stealing, while the other saying that you are still keeping within the
terms of your agreement.

I'm thinking that Verizon (as well as just about everyone in the mobile phone industry) has
different agreements for different people, businesses, regions, etc. These guys are the
modern day equivalent of used car salesmen, where everything is negotiable.

You get a printed brochure in the mail, full of fine print, telling you that they are changing
the terms of the agreement, and that they have the right to change the terms at their
discretion. It may not be fair. It may not be legal, but just be thankful that they just
stopped your service rather than going after you with lawyers.

Because guess who's going to win a law suite in this case? Not you. Like was mentioned
before, what some sales person told you in the store, isn't necessarily how it's going to be
after you signed their contract. It might not even be that long after you've signed it, since
they can change the terms.

Best of luck to all of you, no matter which side of the fence that you're on.

--Rick

--- In maccellphone%40yahoogroups.com">maccellphoneyahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc...> wrote:
&gt;
> > Where did you find these phrases? Please provide a link. The customer
> > service agreement posted on the Verizon Wireless site does not include
> > either one of these phrases.
> >
>; >
> > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/globalText?
textName=CUSTOMER_AGREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
>
> Did you see the part that says, "YOUR CALLING PLANS BECOME PART OF THIS
> AGREEMENT&quot;?
&gt;
> I looked up a typical calling plan:
&gt; <http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?
item=familyShare&amp;action=viewFSPlanList&typeId=2&amp;subTypeId=22&catId=323>;
> and read through the part at the bottom that says, "Read Additional Calling
> Plan Information"
&gt;
> > Also -- notice the phrase "wireless modem device&quot;. The Verizon customer
> > service agreement refers to a cell phone as a wireless phone, not as a
> > wireless modem device. Therefore, it is not at all clear that they are
> > referring to usage of one's cell phone for internet access, as you are
> > implying.
>
> If you think that is the case, more power to you!
>;
> --
>
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Rick Rudge wrote:
&gt; I think that it's kind of interesting that the two hyperlinks furnished
> below, that go to
> Verizon, do not go to the individual agreements, but go to a sign-up page
> where you need
>; to type in your own specific information. No wonder everybody here is up
> in arms; one
> feeling that you're stealing, while the other saying that you are still
> keeping within the
> terms of your agreement.

You're right, Rick, it's particularly interesting in that I did not log in
in order to get to that page originally!

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