Re,
Thanks for help to both. I tried Gary howto and it's working
fine. Next week
I'll try to disable  . Spam checking.
Thks to all, you helped me a lot
David
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De: maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com
[mailto:maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com] En nombre
de Gary V
Enviado el: jueves, 21 de septiembre de 2006 16:08
Para: Maia-usersrenaissoft.com
Asunto: Re: [Maia-users] How to disable outgoing scans? ...
pleaseiappreciatereally much help
>Gary V wrote:
> > There is an issue with bypassing amavisd-new
(using any method in the
> > document I'm working on) which is most notable in
a system like Maia
>where
> > every user has their own settings.
> >
> > htt
p://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/bypassing.html
> >
> > Bypassing violates the recipients settings. You
have the ability to send
> > malware to recipients that do not desire it.
>
>Well yes, if you bypass amavisd-maia entirely (by
applying some sort of
>bypass logic at the upstream Postfix level), then
certainly you're
>ignoring the individual users' preferences, since those
are only
>consulted at the amavisd-maia stage. An upstream bypass
is /not/ the
>recommended way to disable scanning of outbound mail.
>
>
> > You should be able to bypass outgoing check by
selecting "yes" to:
> > Should the System Default user (.) only
catch mail for local
>recipients?
> >
> > But this is in fact broken. If mail is addressed
to a non-local domain,
>the
> > default . domain's setting are used.
>
>The "Should the System Default user (.) only
catch mail for local
>recipients?" is a poorly-named setting, I admit.
It's hard to describe
>what it does in a handful of words, so it tends to
confuse people.
>
>You're correct about the fact that outbound mail is
assigned to the "."
>account regardless of the state of this setting. What
the setting
>determines, mainly, is whether the "."
account should be treated as
>"local", i.e. able to quarantine/cache
outbound mail--things that are
>ordinarily only done for "local" recipients.
Normally Maia won't
>quarantine/cache mail for non-local recipients, but with
this setting
>you can tell Maia to do so.
>
>To make this work properly, though, you first need to
tell Maia about
>all of the domains you want it to process mail for (by
going to the
>Admin->Domains page and adding them there). Once
this is done, the only
>mail that should ever fall through to the "."
domain should be your
>outbound mail. You can then configure the settings for
the "." account
>to do whatever you like with outbound mail (e.g. disable
filtering, etc.).
>
>
> > The workaround would be to set up the . domain
to pass all mail.
>
>I wouldn't call this a "workaround"; it's the
intended solution 
>Outbound mail gets assigned to the "."
account, so if you don't want
>outbound mail to be filtered, you need to turn off
filtering for the
>"." account.
>
>--
>Robert LeBlanc <rjlrenaissoft.com>
Thinking about this some more, while properly configuring
Maia will solve
the problem of outbound mail, David's problem is related to
internal clients
(and other clients allowed to relay through this box) being
given the
ability to send spam to recipients in local domains. In this
case, bypassing
Maia(either entirely, or through the use of policy banks) is
needed to get
the desired effect. You can preserve the user's ability to
do what they wish
with external mail, but override this ability by bypassing
Maia. Now why
David is producing spam in the first place is another
matter, and is the
real problem that should be solved. If this were solved,
there would be no
need to bypass. As I said before, If your own system
discards 90% of your
own mail, what makes you think you have much chance of
getting mail
delivered to external domains?
Gary V
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