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Use of "MailGuard"
country flaguser name
Australia
2007-06-25 19:10:00
Hey Maia Users,

Has anyone else, especially in Australia, received a notice
like this?
I received this from andrewmailguard.com.au


Andrew Johnson wrote:
> To whom it may concern:
>
> It has come to our attention that you are operating a
solution/service 
> at the website address: "http://maia.zo
rdah.net/login.php" that uses 
> our registered trademark "MailGuard".
>
> Please cease to use our registered trademark
immediately.
>
> Please advise us of your intention to comply with our
request, and 
> estimated timeframes for these changes to take place.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> -- 
> Andrew Johnson, Director.
> MailGuard Pty Ltd
> P 03 9092 0541 F 02 9012 0000 M 0419 789 876
>
>
>   

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Peter Kiem

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Re: Use of "MailGuard"
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United States
2007-06-25 20:38:55
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I've never heard of them, but they are infringing on
trademarks  
themselves:
http://www.mailguard.com.au/whoAreWe.htm?sil
o=topmen1&sub=sub1_1

I think Hormel disapproves the term "SPAM" in all
caps.


Maia Mailguard has ben around since at least  January 2001,
according  
to the first code checkin.  Robert had been developing it
for some  
time before that.

This lists some other uses of the term "mailguard"
in AU:

http://agencysearch.australia.gov.au/search/search.cgi? 
collection=agencies&sco=&cool0=&cool1=&cool2
=&cool3=&num_ranks=20&profil 
e=ipaustralia&query=Mailguard&scope_disable=on&s
ubmit=Search



Ah, here we go:
http://per
icles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/ 
falcon_details.show_tm_details? 
p_tm_number=874267&p_search_no=1&p_ExtDisp=D&p_d
etail=DETAILED&p_rec_no= 
1&p_rec_all=2

http://per
icles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/ 
falcon_details.show_tm_details? 
p_tm_number=888477&p_search_no=1&p_ExtDisp=D&p_d
etail=DETAILED&p_rec_no= 
2&p_rec_all=2

According to this, They registered their trademark *after* 
Maia  
1.0.0 RC2 had been released, and I'm not sure how much
before that  
Robert had made public.

Maia Mailguard has been using the term before they
registered it.   
Furthermore, I am not a lawyer, but I think
"Mailguard" alone is too  
generic, which is why we have the full phrase "Maia
Mailguard" as  
our  mark.

Of course, I am not a lawyer, and I have no idea what the
laws are in  
Australia.


On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Peter Kiem wrote:

> Hey Maia Users,
>
> Has anyone else, especially in Australia, received a
notice like this?
> I received this from andrewmailguard.com.au
>
>
> Andrew Johnson wrote:
>> To whom it may concern:
>>
>> It has come to our attention that you are operating
a solution/ 
>> service
>> at the website address: "http://maia.zo
rdah.net/login.php" that uses
>> our registered trademark "MailGuard".
>>
>> Please cease to use our registered trademark
immediately.
>>
>> Please advise us of your intention to comply with
our request, and
>> estimated timeframes for these changes to take
place.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrew Johnson, Director.
>> MailGuard Pty Ltd
>> P 03 9092 0541 F 02 9012 0000 M 0419 789 876
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Peter Kiem
>
> Zordah IT - IT Consultancy and Internet Services
> Ph: (0414) 724-766   Fax: (07) 3344-5827
> Web: www.zordah.net  Email: zordahzordah.net
>
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David Morton
Maia Mailguard http://www.maiamailguard
.com
mortondadgrmm.net



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Re: Use of "MailGuard"
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Australia
2007-06-25 21:28:11
Hi David,

Thanks for the info.  Just what I needed 


-- 
Regards,
Peter Kiem

Zordah IT - IT Consultancy and Internet Services
Ph: (0414) 724-766   Fax: (07) 3344-5827
Web: www.zordah.net  Email: zordahzordah.net


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Re: Use of "MailGuard"
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Australia
2007-06-25 22:08:40
Hi David,
> According to this, They registered their trademark
*after*  Maia 1.0.0 
> RC2 had been released, and I'm not sure how much before
that Robert 
> had made public.
Do you have any version release histories showing the dates
they were 
released?


-- 
Regards,
Peter Kiem

Zordah IT - IT Consultancy and Internet Services
Ph: (0414) 724-766   Fax: (07) 3344-5827
Web: www.zordah.net  Email: zordahzordah.net


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Re: Use of "MailGuard"
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United States
2007-06-26 23:24:36
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On Jun 25, 2007, at 8:38 PM, David Morton wrote:

>
> Maia Mailguard has ben around since at least  January
2001, according
> to the first code checkin.  Robert had been developing
it for some
> time before that.

I evidently can't read...  this says 2003, not 2001.
http://
www.maiamailguard.org/maia/changeset/2





David Morton
Maia Mailguard http://www.maiamailguard
.com
mortondadgrmm.net



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