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Re: Silly question
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-27 08:55:40
Is it normal to take so long per message?

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mail item 2630
as non-spam
2007-09-27 09:54:03 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub] 20
non-spam items
processed (20 learned)


>>> Cory Coager <ccoagerutechproducts.com>
9/27/2007 8:41:46 AM >>>
You need to run process-quarantine.pl once in awhile.  I run
mine via 
crontab as the amavis user once an hour.  This will process
confirmed 
ham/spam and train the bayes database.

~Cory Coager

Rick Zeman wrote:
> When a user marks a message as spam (eg, it's a false
negative), what
> exactly is getting adjusted (and is this irrespective
of any config
> settings?) and how?  
>
> Reason I ask is that for a month we've been seeing some
of the same
spams
> to multiple uses with virtually the same scores and
marking them
doesn't
> seem to be adjusting their scores upwards at all.
>
> Bayes IS on, as is autolearn.  Any tuning tips I
possibly could have
> overlooked?
>
> Tnx.
>
>
>   
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Re: Silly question
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-27 09:03:29
Yup, its pretty resource intensive.  If you run it every
hour though it 
won't inspect so many messages.  Or perhaps run it after
hours...

Rick Zeman wrote:
> Is it normal to take so long per message?
>
> 2007-09-27 09:49:41 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2335
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:49:54 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2340
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:50:10 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2369
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:50:51 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2379
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:22 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2383
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:28 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2396
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:39 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2404
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:52 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2418
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:58 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2425
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:05 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2439
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:10 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2454
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:15 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2471
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:20 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2516
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:43 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2547
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:06 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2556
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:18 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2557
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:29 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2561
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:36 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2573
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:54 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2588
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:54:03 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item 2630
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:54:03 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub] 20
non-spam items
> processed (20 learned)
>
>
>   
>>>> Cory Coager <ccoagerutechproducts.com> 9/27/2007 8:41:46 AM
>>>
>>>>         
> You need to run process-quarantine.pl once in awhile. 
I run mine via 
> crontab as the amavis user once an hour.  This will
process confirmed 
> ham/spam and train the bayes database.
>
> ~Cory Coager
>
> Rick Zeman wrote:
>   
>> When a user marks a message as spam (eg, it's a
false negative), what
>> exactly is getting adjusted (and is this
irrespective of any config
>> settings?) and how?  
>>
>> Reason I ask is that for a month we've been seeing
some of the same
>>     
> spams
>   
>> to multiple uses with virtually the same scores and
marking them
>>     
> doesn't
>   
>> seem to be adjusting their scores upwards at all.
>>
>> Bayes IS on, as is autolearn.  Any tuning tips I
possibly could have
>> overlooked?
>>
>> Tnx.
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
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Re: Silly question
country flaguser name
Netherlands
2007-09-27 09:15:29
Also depends a bit on how fast your machine is, and how big
your bayes
database. It takes about 2-3 seconds per message with me.
Which is also
why I said your in for a long run before ;)

Rgds,

Michiel

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com
[mailto:maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com] Namens Cory
Coager
Verzonden: donderdag 27 september 2007 16:03
Aan: maia-usersrenaissoft.com
CC: Rick Zeman
Onderwerp: Re: [Maia-users] Silly question

Yup, its pretty resource intensive.  If you run it every
hour though it 
won't inspect so many messages.  Or perhaps run it after
hours...

Rick Zeman wrote:
> Is it normal to take so long per message?
>
> 2007-09-27 09:49:41 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2335
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:49:54 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2340
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:50:10 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2369
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:50:51 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2379
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:22 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2383
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:28 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2396
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:39 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2404
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:52 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2418
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:51:58 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2425
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:05 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2439
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:10 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2454
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:15 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2471
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:20 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2516
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:52:43 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2547
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:06 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2556
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:18 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2557
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:29 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2561
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:36 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2573
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:53:54 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2588
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:54:03 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub]
Learned mail item
2630
> as non-spam
> 2007-09-27 09:54:03 Maia: [process-quarantine-sub] 20
non-spam items
> processed (20 learned)
>
>
>   
>>>> Cory Coager <ccoagerutechproducts.com> 9/27/2007 8:41:46 AM
>>>
>>>>         
> You need to run process-quarantine.pl once in awhile. 
I run mine via 
> crontab as the amavis user once an hour.  This will
process confirmed 
> ham/spam and train the bayes database.
>
> ~Cory Coager
>
> Rick Zeman wrote:
>   
>> When a user marks a message as spam (eg, it's a
false negative), what
>> exactly is getting adjusted (and is this
irrespective of any config
>> settings?) and how?  
>>
>> Reason I ask is that for a month we've been seeing
some of the same
>>     
> spams
>   
>> to multiple uses with virtually the same scores and
marking them
>>     
> doesn't
>   
>> seem to be adjusting their scores upwards at all.
>>
>> Bayes IS on, as is autolearn.  Any tuning tips I
possibly could have
>> overlooked?
>>
>> Tnx.
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
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