Bypassing Maia?

>From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
because one of the components shuts down. When that happens
the mail queue
(I use postfix) starts growing...and if I forget to check
(which I often do)
it can get quite large.

I have a script that runs periodically to check whether all
the required
daemons are operating, but it's set up to notify me of any
problem by email.
That's a problem when the email system shuts down .

Is there a way to bypass the "maia environment"
and send a message directly
to the postfix "final delivery" step?

- Mark


 

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On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:58:21PM -0800, Mark Olbert
wrote:
> >From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
> because one of the components shuts down. When that
happens the mail queue
> (I use postfix) starts growing...and if I forget to
check (which I often do)
> it can get quite large.
> 
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all the required
> daemons are operating, but it's set up to notify me of
any problem by email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .
> 
> Is there a way to bypass the "maia
environment" and send a message directly
> to the postfix "final delivery" step?

Not really an answer to your question, but I have one for
you.  I gather
that the Postfix parts of the equation never fail?

Many years ago, several friends who were SysAdmins had their
systems set
up to send messages to pagers ( very brief, just a code
number ),
indicating significant events in the servers and networks
that they were
responsible for.  If I remember correctly, they had them set
up to
report success more often than failure, in that perhaps one
machine was
set up to monitor several others, and once an hour would
send a message
to the pager reporting two things -- first that the
monitoring server
was up by the presence of the message, and second that the
monitored
devices were operating correctly.  Perhaps another server
would monitor
the first and "scream for help" if that one
failed.  Of course all of
this communication was completely separate from the modem
pool and other
"working" parts of the environment.

In any case, I would think that this could be done today,
using some of
the SMS gateways that are freely available, or by some other
method of
communication with the administrator, other than e-mail.

I would think that using e-mail to report on failures of the
e-mail
system might be a little risky.


Brian


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Why not use something like:   http://cr.yp.to/daem
ontools.html 

I use this on some of my FreeBSD boxes to monitor services
and restart if they die.

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>>> On 2/25/2008 at 1:58 PM, in message
<000f01c877f1$2840d3e0$78c27ba0$com>,
"Mark Olbert" <markarcabama.com> wrote:
>> From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
> because one of the components shuts down. When that
happens the mail queue
> (I use postfix) starts growing...and if I forget to
check (which I often do)
> it can get quite large.
> 
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all the required
> daemons are operating, but it's set up to notify me of
any problem by email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .
> 
> Is there a way to bypass the "maia
environment" and send a message directly
> to the postfix "final delivery" step?
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 



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Because I'd never heard of it  Thanks for
the tip!


- Mark


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[mailto:maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Utick
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:38 PM
To: maia-usersrenaissoft.com
Subject: Re: [Maia-users] Bypassing Maia?

Why not use something like:   http://cr.yp.to/daem
ontools.html 

I use this on some of my FreeBSD boxes to monitor services
and restart if
they die.

-- 

---------------------------------------------------
Steve Utick
Infrastructure Center Supervisor
Lewis & Clark County
316 N. Park - Room 211
Helena, MT  59623
---------------------------------------------------


>>> On 2/25/2008 at 1:58 PM, in message 
>>> <000f01c877f1$2840d3e0$78c27ba0$com>,
"Mark Olbert" <markarcabama.com> wrote:
>> From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
> because one of the components shuts down. When that
happens the mail 
> queue (I use postfix) starts growing...and if I forget
to check (which 
> I often do) it can get quite large.
> 
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all the 
> required daemons are operating, but it's set up to
notify me of any
problem by email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .
> 
> Is there a way to bypass the "maia
environment" and send a message 
> directly to the postfix "final delivery"
step?
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 


 

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A good suggestion, thanks.


- Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian McCullough [mailto:bdmcbdmcc-us.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:31 PM
To: Mark Olbert
Cc: maia-usersrenaissoft.com
Subject: Re: [Maia-users] Bypassing Maia?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:58:21PM -0800, Mark Olbert
wrote:
> >From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
> because one of the components shuts down. When that
happens the mail queue
> (I use postfix) starts growing...and if I forget to
check (which I often
do)
> it can get quite large.
> 
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all the required
> daemons are operating, but it's set up to notify me of
any problem by
email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .
> 
> Is there a way to bypass the "maia
environment" and send a message
directly
> to the postfix "final delivery" step?

Not really an answer to your question, but I have one for
you.  I gather
that the Postfix parts of the equation never fail?

Many years ago, several friends who were SysAdmins had their
systems set
up to send messages to pagers ( very brief, just a code
number ),
indicating significant events in the servers and networks
that they were
responsible for.  If I remember correctly, they had them set
up to
report success more often than failure, in that perhaps one
machine was
set up to monitor several others, and once an hour would
send a message
to the pager reporting two things -- first that the
monitoring server
was up by the presence of the message, and second that the
monitored
devices were operating correctly.  Perhaps another server
would monitor
the first and "scream for help" if that one
failed.  Of course all of
this communication was completely separate from the modem
pool and other
"working" parts of the environment.

In any case, I would think that this could be done today,
using some of
the SMS gateways that are freely available, or by some other
method of
communication with the administrator, other than e-mail.

I would think that using e-mail to report on failures of the
e-mail
system might be a little risky.


Brian


 

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I use hobbit with a regular old modem to send me a page, a
monitoring server
and multiple client softwares keep tabs on everything here.

hobbit:  http://hobbitmon.so
urceforge.net/
qpage for the paging:  http://www.qpage.org/
ATT for the cell phone for it to talk to 


Dave Overton, Owner
SYIX.COM

davesyix.com
(530) 755-1751 x101
Fax (530) 751-8871
800-988-SYIX 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com 
> [mailto:maia-users-bouncesrenaissoft.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Olbert
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:58 PM
> To: maia-usersrenaissoft.com
> Subject: [Maia-users] Bypassing Maia?
> 
> >From time to time the "maia environment"
(mysql, amavisd, clamd) dies
> because one of the components shuts down. When that
happens 
> the mail queue (I use postfix) starts growing...and if
I 
> forget to check (which I often do) it can get quite
large.
> 
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all 
> the required daemons are operating, but it's set up to
notify 
> me of any problem by email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .
> 
> Is there a way to bypass the "maia
environment" and send a 
> message directly to the postfix "final
delivery" step?
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
>  
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On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:58 -0800, Mark Olbert wrote:
> I have a script that runs periodically to check whether
all the required
> daemons are operating, but it's set up to notify me of
any problem by email.
> That's a problem when the email system shuts down .

Does your script run on the local server? If so, use port
10025 on
localhost to deliver where amavis returns the message when
done and your
Postfix master.cf file should be configured to disable
content filtering
on that port. Or, better yet, tell postfix to ignore content
filtering
when using the pickup service...in master.cf:

pickup    fifo  n       -       n       60      1      
pickup
    -o content_filter=

This will disable content filtering on messages from the
local system.

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