If I add a user as admin ...

... if, at a later date they then login, do they
"assume" their 
settings/accounts?

Along that line ... is there a way of seeing last login for
a user?

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> ... if, at a later date they then login, do they
"assume" their
> settings/accounts?

The moment you add a user, that user's account settings
determine how
his mail gets filtered, for whatever e-mail addresses are
linked to that
user account.  Whether he logs in or not, his mail will be
filtered
according to those settings, starting the moment you create
his account.

If you grant a user domain administrator privileges, those
also become
effective immediately, and the domain administration
functions will
become available to him the next time he logs in.


> Along that line ... is there a way of seeing last login
for a user?

Not at this time.  A more general version of this was
proposed in Ticket
#52 <htt
ps://secure.renaissoft.com/maia/ticket/52>.

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On Thu, 18 May 2006, Robert LeBlanc wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>> ... if, at a later date they then login, do they
"assume" their
>> settings/accounts?
>
> The moment you add a user, that user's account
settings determine how 
> his mail gets filtered, for whatever e-mail addresses
are linked to that 
> user account.  Whether he logs in or not, his mail will
be filtered 
> according to those settings, starting the moment you
create his account.

Right ... but, if I create a user as administrator (note
that we use POP3 
for auth, so user == mailbox), and that user later logs in
and changes 
his/her settings, it isn't going to create a problem with
the account?



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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> Right ... but, if I create a user as administrator
(note that we use
> POP3 for auth, so user == mailbox), and that user later
logs in and
> changes his/her settings, it isn't going to create a
problem with the
> account?

It shouldn't create any problems, no.  What kind of problem
are you
concerned about?

If the user logs in and changes his settings, those changes
only affect
the filtering of his own e-mail addresses.

As a domain admin, of course, he has the ability to change
the domain
default settings, but to do that he'd have to go to the
Admin->Domains
page and change those there, since they're not related to
his own
personal settings.

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On Thu, 18 May 2006, Robert LeBlanc wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>> Right ... but, if I create a user as administrator
(note that we use
>> POP3 for auth, so user == mailbox), and that user
later logs in and
>> changes his/her settings, it isn't going to create
a problem with the
>> account?
>
> It shouldn't create any problems, no.  What kind of
problem are you
> concerned about?

Just making sure that my creating it as . won't
somehow 'lock' those 
particular settings somehow ...

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> Just making sure that my creating it as . won't
somehow 'lock' those
> particular settings somehow ...

Er, yes, that would muck things up a great deal--if it were
possible to
do so.  You shouldn't be able to add a "."
address, since it should
already exist (it's created by default at install time by
the SQL
scripts).  For that matter, you should not be trying to add
domain-style
addresses (e.g. "domain") as users; add them instead
via the
"Admin->Domains->Add Domain" mechanism,
which properly creates the
domain records for them.

Perhaps you misunderstand how domain administration
privileges are
granted.  You don't have to create any special accounts for
this, you
just grant domain administration privileges to one or more
regular
users.  For example, if you have a domain called "example.com" and you
want to make a user "joe" an administrator for
that domain, you'd log
yourself in as the superadmin, go to
"Admin->Domains->example.com->Add
Administrator", select "joe" from the
list, and press the "Grant
Administrator Privileges" button.  A domain can have
more than one
administrator, but only the superadmin can grant domain
admin privileges.

As for the "." domain, only the superadmin can
manage that
pseudo-domain, and there can only be one superadmin (for the
same
reasons there can only be one "root" account on
a Unix system).  If you
truly need to grant more than one person superadmin
privileges, your
best bet is to treat the superadmin as a role account and
share the
login information with the people involved (and hope they
don't change
the password on you without telling you).

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One of these times, I'm going to say this the right way so
that you 
understand what I'm asking 

I login as the 'super user' (ie. control .) ... I
add a user 
(useriddomain) through the Admin screen ... user (useriddomain)
then 
proceeds to login to their account at a later date and
changes their 
settings from what I set them as ...

Will my having created that user (useriddomain)
manually, vs it being 
created automatically when he/she logs in the first time,
cause any 
problems?

Purely single user, nothing domain wide ...


On Thu, 18 May 2006, Robert LeBlanc wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>> Just making sure that my creating it as . won't
somehow 'lock' those
>> particular settings somehow ...
>
> Er, yes, that would muck things up a great deal--if it
were possible to
> do so.  You shouldn't be able to add a "."
address, since it should
> already exist (it's created by default at install time
by the SQL
> scripts).  For that matter, you should not be trying to
add domain-style
> addresses (e.g. "domain") as users;
add them instead via the
> "Admin->Domains->Add Domain"
mechanism, which properly creates the
> domain records for them.
>
> Perhaps you misunderstand how domain administration
privileges are
> granted.  You don't have to create any special
accounts for this, you
> just grant domain administration privileges to one or
more regular
> users.  For example, if you have a domain called
"example.com" and you
> want to make a user "joe" an administrator
for that domain, you'd log
> yourself in as the superadmin, go to
"Admin->Domains->example.com->Add
> Administrator", select "joe" from the
list, and press the "Grant
> Administrator Privileges" button.  A domain can
have more than one
> administrator, but only the superadmin can grant domain
admin privileges.
>
> As for the "." domain, only the superadmin can
manage that
> pseudo-domain, and there can only be one superadmin
(for the same
> reasons there can only be one "root"
account on a Unix system).  If you
> truly need to grant more than one person superadmin
privileges, your
> best bet is to treat the superadmin as a role account
and share the
> login information with the people involved (and hope
they don't change
> the password on you without telling you).
>
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> Renaissoft, Inc.
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guard.com/>
>
>

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ttings from what I set them as ...
> 
> Will my having created that user (useriddomain)
manually, vs it being
> created automatically when he/she logs in the first
time, cause any
> problems?

They use the same function call...

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> Will my having created that user (useriddomain)
manually, vs it being
> created automatically when he/she logs in the first
time, cause any
> problems?

No, it shouldn't cause any problems, since (as David points
out) the
same underlying mechanism is used to create the user
account, whether
it's done for the user at first login or done manually by
the
administrator.  The user account gets created the same way,
ultimately.

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