Maia still does not like php 5?

Our maia server recently suffered catastrophic hardware
failure, so we took
the opportunity to build a new server from scratch,
installing maia 1.0.1 on a
fresh install of suse 10.1.

As it turns out, php4 is not an install option with 10.1, so
we went with
php5. Although the configtest.pl in the maia scripts
directory worked fine,
the web based configtest failed, complaining loudly that
none of the pear
modules are installed, even though they show up in the
output of "pear5 list"
as they should.

How far away are we from getting maia to play nice with
php5? We'd rather not
start installing old tarballs or porting old packages if
possible. Are there
any cvs versions that have been reported to work with php5?


Regards,

Joel

PS a large automotive manufacturer (and a paying renaissoft
customer) wants to
upgrade their old SLES 9 servers to SLES 10 this summer, so
the php5 issue
could become quite an issue indeed...






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joel wrote:

> As it turns out, php4 is not an install option with
10.1, so we went with
> php5. Although the configtest.pl in the maia scripts
directory worked fine,
> the web based configtest failed, complaining loudly
that none of the pear
> modules are installed, even though they show up in the
output of "pear5 list"
> as they should.

We're trying to narrow down the problem with configtest.php
and its
detection of PEAR:B (which
as I understand it is at the root of the
problem you encountered; all subsequent errors in the
configtest stemmed
from not having found PEAR:B). 
It's a bit of a mystery at the moment,
since it seems to be distribution-dependent--we've had
reports of
PEAR:B not
being detected properly under Mandriva 2006 and now SuSE
10.1, but it apparently detects just fine under PHP5 on
other distros.

In any case, if you know that PEAR:B is
installed on your system, you
can disregard the configtest.php complaint and Maia should
run properly.
 The problem, in other words, is with our diagnostic test,
not with Maia
itself.

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joel a écrit :
> Our maia server recently suffered catastrophic hardware
failure, so we took
> the opportunity to build a new server from scratch,
installing maia 1.0.1 on a
> fresh install of suse 10.1.
>
> As it turns out, php4 is not an install option with
10.1, so we went with
> php5. Although the configtest.pl in the maia scripts
directory worked fine,
> the web based configtest failed, complaining loudly
that none of the pear
> modules are installed, even though they show up in the
output of "pear5 list"
> as they should.
>
> How far away are we from getting maia to play nice with
php5? We'd rather not
> start installing old tarballs or porting old packages
if possible. Are there
> any cvs versions that have been reported to work with
php5?
>
>   
Joel,

We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without any
problem. Gentoo is 
our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of the
dependencies.

Just dont pay to much attention on congitest, it seems to be
broken on 
certain distros.

Regards

--Alexandre
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Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:

> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without any
problem. Gentoo is 
> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of the
dependencies.

But does your configtest.php correctly detect PEAR:B?

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Robert LeBlanc wrote:
> Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
> 
>> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without
any problem. Gentoo is 
>> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of
the dependencies.
> 
> But does your configtest.php correctly detect PEAR:B?


Works fine here, too.
PHP 5.1.4 on up-to-date gentoo.

PEAR:B OK:
1.7.6 DB.php installed as: /usr/share/php/DB.php
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Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
> joel a écrit :
>> Our maia server recently suffered catastrophic
hardware failure, so we took
>> the opportunity to build a new server from scratch,
installing maia 1.0.1 on a
>> fresh install of suse 10.1.
>>
>> As it turns out, php4 is not an install option with
10.1, so we went with
>> php5. Although the configtest.pl in the maia
scripts directory worked fine,
>> the web based configtest failed, complaining loudly
that none of the pear
>> modules are installed, even though they show up in
the output of "pear5 list"
>> as they should.
>>
>> How far away are we from getting maia to play nice
with php5? We'd rather not
>> start installing old tarballs or porting old
packages if possible. Are there
>> any cvs versions that have been reported to work
with php5?
>>
>>   
> Joel,
> 
> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without any
problem. Gentoo is 
> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of the
dependencies.
> 
> Just dont pay to much attention on congitest, it seems
to be broken on 
> certain distros.

Thanks, that's an excellent data point. chalk another one
up for gentoo.

My problems on suse 10.1 seem to run deeper than configtest
though -all the
maia php pages are blank, or rather every maia page I hit
contains the
something like the following:

<html><head></head></html>

It might be a quirk of the php5 packaging on suse 10.1 that
something is
falling through the cracks there.

Unfortunately, I ran out of time, so I installed suse 10.0
on the server and
maia is now installed and running happily.

Hopefully David Morton will come up with something, he's
reported to be
looking into the suse 10.1 problem as we speak, so to
speak...

Joel
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Robert LeBlanc a écrit :
> Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
>
>   
>> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without
any problem. Gentoo is 
>> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of
the dependencies.
>>     
>
> But does your configtest.php correctly detect PEAR:B?
>
>   
Not the 1.0.1 stock one.

Failed are (installed version)
Smarty (2.6.13)
PEAR::Mail_Mime (1.3.1_r1)
PEAR:B
(1.7.6-r1)
PEAR::Net_Socket (1.0.6-r1)
PEAR::Net_SMTP (1.2.7)
PEAR::Auth_SASL (1.0.1-r1)
PEAR::Net_IMAP (1.0.3-r1)
PEAR::Net_POP3 (1.3.6-r1)
PEAR::Log (1.9.3)

I have to try svn verion. I've see a lot of changes on
detection logic.

Regards
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Alexandre Ghisoli a écrit :
> Robert LeBlanc a écrit :
>   
>> Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running
without any problem. Gentoo is 
>>> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most
of the dependencies.
>>>     
>>>       
>> But does your configtest.php correctly detect
PEAR:B?
>>
>>   
>>     
> Not the 1.0.1 stock one.
>
> Failed are (installed version)
> Smarty (2.6.13)
> PEAR::Mail_Mime (1.3.1_r1)
> PEAR:B
(1.7.6-r1)
> PEAR::Net_Socket (1.0.6-r1)
> PEAR::Net_SMTP (1.2.7)
> PEAR::Auth_SASL (1.0.1-r1)
> PEAR::Net_IMAP (1.0.3-r1)
> PEAR::Net_POP3 (1.3.6-r1)
> PEAR::Log (1.9.3)
>
> I have to try svn verion. I've see a lot of changes on
detection logic.
>   
Just tested the rev1066 configtest.php, and almost the, and
some stuff 
related to PEAR::Image and PEAR::Numbers, but I dont know if
they are 
system wide installed.
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joel a écrit :
> Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
>   
>> joel a écrit :
>>     
>>> Our maia server recently suffered catastrophic
hardware failure, so we took
>>> the opportunity to build a new server from
scratch, installing maia 1.0.1 on a
>>> fresh install of suse 10.1.
>>>
>>> As it turns out, php4 is not an install option
with 10.1, so we went with
>>> php5. Although the configtest.pl in the maia
scripts directory worked fine,
>>> the web based configtest failed, complaining
loudly that none of the pear
>>> modules are installed, even though they show up
in the output of "pear5 list"
>>> as they should.
>>>
>>> How far away are we from getting maia to play
nice with php5? We'd rather not
>>> start installing old tarballs or porting old
packages if possible. Are there
>>> any cvs versions that have been reported to
work with php5?
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Joel,
>>
>> We have PHP5 webservers and maia running without
any problem. Gentoo is 
>> our distrib, and my ebuild check against most of
the dependencies.
>>
>> Just dont pay to much attention on congitest, it
seems to be broken on 
>> certain distros.
>>     
>
> Thanks, that's an excellent data point. chalk another
one up for gentoo.
>
> My problems on suse 10.1 seem to run deeper than
configtest though -all the
> maia php pages are blank, or rather every maia page I
hit contains the
> something like the following:
>
> <html><head></head></html>
>
> It might be a quirk of the php5 packaging on suse 10.1
that something is
> falling through the cracks there.
>
> Unfortunately, I ran out of time, so I installed suse
10.0 on the server and
> maia is now installed and running happily.
>
> Hopefully David Morton will come up with something,
he's reported to be
> looking into the suse 10.1 problem as we speak, so to
speak...
>
> Joel
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>   
Oh, I forgot to mention :
https://secure.renaissoft.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki
/BlankPage

Mostly because smarty engine lack file permissions to write
compiled 
template.

--Alexandre
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joel wrote:

> It might be a quirk of the php5 packaging on suse 10.1
that something is
> falling through the cracks there.
> 
> Unfortunately, I ran out of time, so I installed suse
10.0 on the server and
> maia is now installed and running happily.

quirks indeed... what's with this new ZenWorks software
management tool?

How did you go about installing pear modules?  What was
included and what did
you install by hand?  Did you use rpms or use the pear
command line?



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