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foundation joining OGC and TC/211?
user name
2006-01-30 20:36:20
 
I think this is a good idea, as the community can have
access to what's going on / coming up in the OGC community.
 
One question I initially have is how does (if at all) affect
organizations dealing with open source who are already OGC
members?  I'm guessing their memberships are different (e.g.
voting, etc.), but still worth pondering.
 
Cheers
 
..Tom
 

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	So I've been talking to the GeoTools community, and one
idea that some
	one suggested that has gained a lot of popularity would be
if the
	foundation was able to join OGC and/or TC/211 and get
access to the OGC
	and ISO specs.  Not sure if this came up on this list
already, but
	didn't see it on:
	http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/commun
ity/foundation/background/foundationtasks/
	As open source developers we generally can't afford access
to many of
	the specs that our work is based on and supports.  The OGC
has been
	nice about allowing access in special circumstances, but it
would be
	great if the foundation was a member and anyone in a
project associated
	with the foundation could get access to the documents.  A
non-profit,
	non-voting membership to the OGC only costs $1,100
	
	I'm not sure how feasible this is, or what others feel
about it, but for
	many in my communities this would likely be one of the
biggest benefits
	joining a foundation could offer.
	
	best regards,
	
	Chris
	
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foundation joining OGC and TC/211?
user name
2006-01-30 21:31:19
I think you would have to hit OGC on a very good day. There
are  
issues associated with feeding docs through an umbrella
organization,  
and in as much as the Foundation could wind up making it
easier for  
people to join the foundation than to join OGC, that could
be a bit  
of a sticking point.

I have repeatedly pushed for more openness within OGC and
the use of  
discussion papers is the result of a major brouhaha I
started in  
Atlanta many years ago. I think it would be good for OGC to
be pushed  
towards even more open access.

One way to work on the issue is to appoint liaison people
between the  
Foundation and OGC and ISO. This works well for WGISS
(http:// 
wgiss.ceos.org) where we basically have many WGISS members
who are  
also OGC members and/or ISO participants. The liaison people
feed  
news from OGC/ISO into WGISS and bring issues back.

I would also hope that certain big members of OGC who are
also going  
to be Foundation members (*cough* Autodesk *cough*) and
other could  
push OGC for more access without the Foundation having to
spend hard  
cash on an OGC membership.

	Allan

On Jan 30, 2006, at 15:36, Kralidis,Tom [Burlington] wrote:

>
> I think this is a good idea, as the community can have
access to  
> what's going on / coming up in the OGC community.
>
> One question I initially have is how does (if at all)
affect  
> organizations dealing with open source who are already
OGC  
> members?  I'm guessing their memberships are different
(e.g.  
> voting, etc.), but still worth pondering.
>
> Cheers
>
> ..Tom
>
>
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: discuss-bounceslists.mapserverfoundation.org on behalf of  
> Chris Holmes
> 	Sent: Mon 30-Jan-06 15:26
> 	To: discusslists.mapserverfoundation.org
> 	Cc:
> 	Subject: [MSF-Discuss] foundation joining OGC and
TC/211?
> 	
> 	
>
> 	So I've been talking to the GeoTools community, and
one idea that  
> some
> 	one suggested that has gained a lot of popularity
would be if the
> 	foundation was able to join OGC and/or TC/211 and get
access to  
> the OGC
> 	and ISO specs.  Not sure if this came up on this list
already, but
> 	didn't see it on:
> 	http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/community/foundation/b
ackground/ 
> foundationtasks/
> 	As open source developers we generally can't afford
access to many of
> 	the specs that our work is based on and supports.  The
OGC has been
> 	nice about allowing access in special circumstances,
but it would be
> 	great if the foundation was a member and anyone in a
project  
> associated
> 	with the foundation could get access to the documents.
 A non-profit,
> 	non-voting membership to the OGC only costs $1,100
> 	
> 	I'm not sure how feasible this is, or what others feel
about it,  
> but for
> 	many in my communities this would likely be one of the
biggest  
> benefits
> 	joining a foundation could offer.
> 	
> 	best regards,
> 	
> 	Chris
> 	
> 	***
> 	Chris Holmes
> 	The Open Planning Project
> 	thoughts at: http://cholmes.wordpress
.com
> 	
>
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