noob questions

Hello,

I'm setting up a small mediawiki site with content migrated
from kwiki. 
I'm getting quite confused by how to find out how to do
things with 
mediawiki, so I joined this list to ask some questions. But
I'm even 
confused about whether this is the right place 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists
says "MediaWiki-l 
for people with questions about their own installation of
MediaWiki", 
but the sign-up page for the list suggest a different focus
"MediaWiki-l 
-- MediaWiki announcements and site admin list". So my
apologies if I'm 
not in the right place.

I have one page where I'm documenting how some of my code
works. It's 
Javascript so the text is liberally scattered with HTML tags
that I'm 
discussing. But mediawiki is *interpreting* these tags as
HTML! I see 
that this is a feature from http://me
ta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing 
and 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext
even tells me 
which tags are affected. But I can't find anywhere that
tells me how to 
turn this feature off when I don't want it. How can I write
text that 
includes HTML tags as literals?

I'm also trying to include some images of what the
resulting page looks 
like. I succeeded by just adding something like 

http://localhost/htdocs/images/one-line-evidence.png to
my wikitext, but 
I suspect that's not the pukka way to do it. Is there a
better way?

Oh, is there a searchable archive for this list?

Thanks and regards,
Dave Howorth
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On Apr 26, 2006, at 2:40 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm setting up a small mediawiki site with content
migrated from  
> kwiki.
> I'm getting quite confused by how to find out how to
do things with
> mediawiki, so I joined this list to ask some questions.
But I'm even
> confused about whether this is the right place 
Yes.
>
> 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists
says "MediaWiki-l
> for people with questions about their own installation
of MediaWiki",
> but the sign-up page for the list suggest a different
focus  
> "MediaWiki-l
> -- MediaWiki announcements and site admin list".
So my apologies if  
> I'm 
> not in the right place.
Site admins? That's you. And me.
>
> I have one page where I'm documenting how some of my
code works. It's
> Javascript so the text is liberally scattered with HTML
tags that I'm
> discussing. But mediawiki is *interpreting* these tags
as HTML! I see
> that this is a feature from http://meta.wikimedia
.org/wiki/ 
> Help:Editing
> and 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext
even tells me
> which tags are affected. But I can't find anywhere
that tells me  
> how to
> turn this feature off when I don't want it. How can I
write text that
> includes HTML tags as literals?
<pre> <---- Makes text look like code, but I expect
you know that.
<nowiki> <--- Turns off wiki. Totally. Everything
below here will  
appear AS YOU TYPE IT.
function thisIsCode() {
	$done = true;
	return true;
}
</nowiki> <--- Turns back on wiki. Continues as
normal.
</pre> <--- closes code block.
>
> I'm also trying to include some images of what the
resulting page  
> looks
> like. I succeeded by just adding something like
> 
http://localhost/htdocs/images/one-line-evidence.png to
my  
> wikitext, but
> I suspect that's not the pukka way to do it. Is there
a better way?
First, upload it - there's an 'upload file' link in the
toolbox on  
the sidebar. Or you can go to http://sub.domain
.tld/your/wikidir/ 
index.php?title=Special:Upload
Then, upload the file. The interface should be pretty self  
explanatory. Once you've uploaded it, you can type  
[[Image:Filename.ext]] in any page and instead of a link, it
will  
actually substitute it in.
>
> Oh, is there a searchable archive for this list?
No idea.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Dave Howorth
No problem,
Elliott Cable
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On 26/04/06, Elliott F. Cable <ecableavxw.com> wrote:
> > Oh, is there a searchable archive for this list?
> No idea.

Yes. http
://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l.


Rob Church
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Elliott F. Cable wrote:
>>I have one page where I'm documenting how some of
my code works. It's
>>Javascript so the text is liberally scattered with
HTML tags that I'm
>>discussing. But mediawiki is *interpreting* these
tags as HTML! I see
>>that this is a feature from http://meta.wikimedia
.org/wiki/ 
>>Help:Editing
>>and 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext
even tells me
>>which tags are affected. But I can't find anywhere
that tells me  
>>how to
>>turn this feature off when I don't want it. How can
I write text that
>>includes HTML tags as literals?
> <pre> <---- Makes text look like code, but I
expect you know that.
> <nowiki> <--- Turns off wiki. Totally.
Everything below here will  
> appear AS YOU TYPE IT.
> function thisIsCode() {
> 	$done = true;
> 	return true;
> }
> </nowiki> <--- Turns back on wiki. Continues
as normal.
> </pre> <--- closes code block.

I probably didn't explain very well. The HTML tags are
embedded in text. 
Here's a typical sample:

"The normal solution for a single-line input choice is
a <select> 
element, but these aren't too good at displaying large text
fields such 
as the description and don't allow nice formatting to
separate fields. 
So I was using a <table> with an <input
type="radio">  column but that 
takes up too much screen real estate."

The <table> tag completely screws the page. I want
wiki formatting 
turned *on* so that I can use text styling as normal. But I
don't want 
HTML tags interpreted at all. What I want is something like
<nohtml> ... 
</nohtml>.

I think your suggestion has me typing
<pre><table></pre> everywhere, 
which doesn't seem to fit with the wiki notion of simple
text 
preparation. Plus. it doesn't actually work! It makes the
text look like 
this:

"The normal solution for a single-line input choice is
a <select> 
element, but these aren't too good at displaying large text
fields such 
as the description and don't allow nice formatting to
separate fields. 
So I was using a

<table>

with an <input type="radio">  column but
that takes up too much screen 
real estate."

The least annoying workaround I've found so far is to write
all the tags 
like this: < table >. But that's a PITA as well.

Cheers, Dave
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Use <nowiki><table></nowiki>.


Dave Howorth wrote:

>Elliott F. Cable wrote:
>  
>
>>>I have one page where I'm documenting how some
of my code works. It's
>>>Javascript so the text is liberally scattered
with HTML tags that I'm
>>>discussing. But mediawiki is *interpreting*
these tags as HTML! I see
>>>that this is a feature from http://meta.wikimedia
.org/wiki/ 
>>>Help:Editing
>>>and 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext
even tells me
>>>which tags are affected. But I can't find
anywhere that tells me  
>>>how to
>>>turn this feature off when I don't want it. How
can I write text that
>>>includes HTML tags as literals?
>>>      
>>>
>><pre> <---- Makes text look like code, but
I expect you know that.
>><nowiki> <--- Turns off wiki. Totally.
Everything below here will  
>>appear AS YOU TYPE IT.
>>function thisIsCode() {
>>	$done = true;
>>	return true;
>>}
>></nowiki> <--- Turns back on wiki.
Continues as normal.
>></pre> <--- closes code block.
>>    
>>
>
>I probably didn't explain very well. The HTML tags are
embedded in text. 
>Here's a typical sample:
>
>"The normal solution for a single-line input
choice is a <select> 
>element, but these aren't too good at displaying large
text fields such 
>as the description and don't allow nice formatting to
separate fields. 
>So I was using a <table> with an <input
type="radio">  column but that 
>takes up too much screen real estate."
>
>The <table> tag completely screws the page. I want
wiki formatting 
>turned *on* so that I can use text styling as normal.
But I don't want 
>HTML tags interpreted at all. What I want is something
like <nohtml> ... 
></nohtml>.
>
>I think your suggestion has me typing
<pre><table></pre> everywhere, 
>which doesn't seem to fit with the wiki notion of
simple text 
>preparation. Plus. it doesn't actually work! It makes
the text look like 
>this:
>
>"The normal solution for a single-line input
choice is a <select> 
>element, but these aren't too good at displaying large
text fields such 
>as the description and don't allow nice formatting to
separate fields. 
>So I was using a
>
><table>
>
>with an <input type="radio">  column
but that takes up too much screen 
>real estate."
>
>The least annoying workaround I've found so far is to
write all the tags 
>like this: < table >. But that's a PITA as well.
>
>Cheers, Dave
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>
>  
>
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Moin,

On Thursday 27 April 2006 11:16, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Elliott F. Cable wrote:
[snip]
> I think your suggestion has me typing
<pre><table></pre> everywhere,
> which doesn't seem to fit with the wiki notion of
simple text
> preparation. Plus. it doesn't actually work! It makes
the text look
> like this:
>
> "The normal solution for a single-line input
choice is a <select>
> element, but these aren't too good at displaying large
text fields such
> as the description and don't allow nice formatting to
separate fields.
> So I was using a
>
> <table>

Use  "The normal solution is a &lt;table&gt;
tag..."

Apologizes if this was already answered.

Best wishes,

Tels


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