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My top 4 in a wishlist
user name
2007-01-21 12:08:50

This is a good list - thanks! I agree that we need to focus on doing
a few things REALLY well and everything else just "falls" in there.

My list of what to do really well:
1) Tools for vloggers - we need better tools to help videobloggers
manage their feeds on Mefeedia.... things like "claim a feed" (like
Technorati has - what we have is too basic), no duplicate feeds
(need to look at more in the RSS), edit all metadata on a feed (once
you have claimed it), and them provide more robust statistics.

2) Search and navigation - basically, make it easy to find vlogs.

3) Aggregation, tagging, social bookmarking - including
bookmarklets, etc. - make this more robust than what we currently
have..

4) API - a nice API for EVERYTHING, and include a whole bunch of
examples and widgets.

Also, we need to constantly focus on:
1) Design - the entire site needs to be really easy to use and have
(a little bit) more graphic design...
2) Before we do this, however, i want to fix all critical bugs and
make sure the current site is close to 100% working as it should.

--- In mefeedia-users%40yahoogroups.com">mefeedia-usersyahoogroups.com, groups-yahoo-com... wrote:
>
> This is a good a place as any to discuss what vloggers want.
>
> I think personally that mefeedia needs to become thinner.
>
> In simple terms... a little bit more like technoratti, digg, or
webjay
> then say a bloglines or especiallya flickr or youtube.
>
> Specifically, instead of focussing on so many mechanisms to
interact
> ON mefeedia.com like collections, lists, comments, recommendations,
> tagging... which are all cool... but instead focusing on these
which
> serve only to build value INTO mefeedia... mefeedia should instead
of
> adding more tools like this first focus on perfecting tracking and
> aggreagation of information that comes from vlogs such as. Which
is to
> say, not focusing on building internal value, but on tracking
external
> value.
>
> So... we should perfect the tools we have for building value on
> mefeedia, but rather than just building more and more of these
tools
> we should focus on perfecting the tools we have and then build more
>; widgets, bookmarklets and other such tools for both capturing
value,
> tracking it, and pushing it back out there.
>
> A great example would be a simple vlogrolling widget, and a
> bookmarklet or multiple bookmarklets for identifying and working
with
> outside media. For example a single click bookmarklet for adding a
> youtube video to your queue and/or bookmarking it on mefeedia and
> tagging it, or adding it to a collection... or something or other.
>
> Here are some other examples.
>
> -comment tracking... this is a great example... instead of
focusing on
> on commenting on mefeedia, aggregate, track and drive comment to
the
> original vlog... see co.mments.com. At the very minimum we could
> display the number of comments on the original blog post on
mefeedia.
> At the most we could track users comments for them throughout the
> vlogosphere.
>
> -meme tracking... mefeedia's tag tracking has fallen way behind the
> times... we talked about meme tracking in depth it seems like a
year
> ago. Since then techmeme.com has pretty much built exactly what I
was
> talking about way back then. Essentially what techmeme does is
track
> links to determine what's being talked about and who's responging
to
> it on blogs and showing it in a threaded manner. Forget the
tags...
> forget that it's blog tracking, techmeme just works. I've hear
nothing
> but good things about it. I'm dying to see this sort of tracking
for
> vlogs and podcasts. Noone, not ANYONE does this for vlogs... not
digg
> video, not even youtube... well youtube sort of does it. Video
> responses are something vloggers have LONG wanted.... meme
tracking is
> exactly that.
>
> -tag tracking... revitalize tag tracking... gone but not out...
> currently mefeedia tag tracking is flakey at best... and possibly
not
> working at all... tag tracking is huge on technoratti, slashdot and
> digg... when combined with techememe type tracking the two rule.
>
> Even among vloggers... mefeedia has lost out on that potential to
be
> the technoratti of it's space, failed to meet the needs of the
> community... it may be harsh but it's true. One example is the "5
> things" meme... it has been talked about and participated in
heavily
> in the vlogosphere... and nowhere has anyone mentioned tracking it
on
> mefeedia... which would seem ideal... and one of the primary
reaosns
> why... last time I checked there was only ONE item in mefeedia
tagged
> with 5 things, and that was something Jan tagged on mefeedia. We've
> failed Jan, and vloggers everywhere. ;(
>
> Mefeedia MUST get better at tag tracking.... like digg.com, like
>; delicious, like technoratti, like slashdot. Tags are now a
fundamental
> part of disintermediation, tracking and the search space.
>
> -search... mefeedia currently has nearly 1.8 million audio and
video
> posts record, and yet NO way to search these individual posts...
only
> for feeds. Search is FUNDAMENTALLY central to mefeedia... in fact
if
> there were only core competencies of mefeedia search would have to
be
> one of them.
>
> Overall, mefeedia needs to become thinner, it needs to stear
(steer?)
> away from behaving like the following services...
>
> youtube, flickr, blip.tv, bloglines
>
> And it needs to stear toward working like the following
>
> technoratti, digg.com, techmeme, co.comments.
>
> In tearms of wether mefeedia is a "service", a "platform", or a
> "network"... we must first and foremost be a SERVICE. I've spoken
a
>; lot about mefeedia's potential to build out the network to make
>; vlogging go more places, especially beyond the desktop to set top
> boxes, media servers and the mobile web... however fond I am of
these
> ideas mefeedia is in NO place to grow the network until it FIRST
> succeeds at providing basic services for the vlogging space.
>
> Those services are fundamentally the following
>
> 1) SEARCH... NO other place searches the videoblogging space...
> NONE... the vlogging space desperately needs search... we need to
get
> our ass in gear... secondly there is also need for a great audio
> podcasting search engine... odeo is the only one I know... there is
> huge potentials in this area... competition: technoratti...
>; differentiator = we're MEDIA specific, and we do a couple more
things
> then search, which brings me to the next point...
>
> 2) tracking and aggregation... Once again there is NO tracker and
no
> aggregator for the vlogosphere... and by vlogosphere I mean not
only
> the core members on the yahoo group and blip.tv, but also youtube,
> vsocial, vimeo, revver and the entire scope of all social media
> services.
>
> The closest competition mefeedia has here is delicious, dabble and
> bloglines. Del.icio.us a social bookmarker that just happens to
have
> limited support for media, and digg which has recently added
support
> for videos and podcasts. And dabble I like but I can't figure
out...
> they a sort of playground for media, but they're tricky to use.
Maybe
> we're more alike than I know.
>
> The bottom line is this. Mefeedia must recapture that initial
> vitality, utility and just plain downright usefulness for the
> community. To remind people why they fell in love with mefeedia
and
> to regain and build trust and a community dialogue. We build on
that
> interaction and trust after rebuilding it by continuing to build
> valueable widgets and tools and finally to capture the big vision
to
> take vlogging as a platform beyond the dekstop platform... not
just to
> distribute and syndicate media out to these new platforms, but
above
> all to make these new platforms part of a communications network...
> this is no broadcast network, it's a communications network.
>
> Peace,
>
> -Mike
> mefeedia.com/blog
>
> On 1/18/07, Jan McLaughlin <jannie.jan...> wrote:
&gt; > Congrats all the way around. Look forward to all our vlogdreams
coming true.
&gt; >
>; > Jan
> >
>; > On 1/18/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck...> wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > > And to frame Frank's post:
&gt; > > We've decided to turn over the reins of mefeedia.com to Frank
Sinton.
> > >
>; > > Frank is planning to keep it running as the best place to find
videoblogs,
> > > focused on independent videoblogs. And of course he'll respect
all user
>; > > agreements (ie. he won't spam your emails and such, he'll
respect CC
> > > licenses, ...). I've talked to him and I believe he's got all
the right
&gt; > > motives. He's on this list, you can ask him your questions
> > >
>; > > I made the decision because I just didn't have the time and
money (those
&gt; > > servers cost $) to keep mefeedia going. It had grown way
beyond my
> > > expectations, it's been getting lots of pageviews and
attention and I just
>; > > can't support that anymore. Frank is looking to invest more
time and $ in
> > > mefeedia so rather than let it die a slow death due to lack of
attention,
> > > I'd rather have him have it.
> > >
>; > > Meanwhile, I have to thank Devlon Duthie and Mike Meiser for
all their
&gt; > > incredible work to make mefeedia what it is today, and for all
the support
> > > we've gotten from y'all in the past 2 years!
&gt; > >
>; > > Let me know if you have any questions!
> > >
>; > > Here's a word from Frank:
&gt; > >
>; > > "Hello to everyone in the vlogosphere. First of all, thank you
Peter and
> > > Devlon (and the many others involved) for creating such a
great tool for
> > > videobloggers. Your hard work and support for Mefeedia shows.
As far as
> > > plans for Mefeedia, i was actually looking for your input on
seeing what
>; > you
> > > would like to see! Please use this group, email me frank...,
or
&gt; > > join our mefeedia users group:
&gt; > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefeedia-users/ All
comments,
> > > suggestions, and questions are welcome.&quot;
> > >
>; > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
&gt; > >
>; > > On 1/18/07, Frank <frank...> wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > Hi Mefeedia users - there hasn't been much discussion
lately, so let's
&gt; > > > start this up again.
&gt; > > >
>; > > > What would you like to see in Mefeedia? The sky is the
limit - let us
> > > > know!
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Frank
&gt; > > >
>; > > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > > --
> > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
> > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
> > > my job: http://petervandijck.net
>; >
>; >
>; > --
> > The Faux Press - better than real
>; > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> >
>; >
>; >
>; > Yahoo! Groups Links
&gt; >
>; >
>; >
>; >
>;

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Re: My top 4 in a wishlist
user name
2007-01-21 21:12:44

I'd definitely second that.

On 1/21/07, Frank < frank%40beachfrontmedia.com">frankbeachfrontmedia.com> wrote:
&gt; This is a good list - thanks! I agree that we need to focus on doing
&gt; a few things REALLY well and everything else just "falls" in there.
&gt;
> My list of what to do really well:
&gt; 1) Tools for vloggers - we need better tools to help videobloggers
> manage their feeds on Mefeedia.... things like "claim a feed" (like
&gt; Technorati has - what we have is too basic), no duplicate feeds
&gt; (need to look at more in the RSS), edit all metadata on a feed (once
&gt; you have claimed it), and them provide more robust statistics.
>
> 2) Search and navigation - basically, make it easy to find vlogs.
&gt;
> 3) Aggregation, tagging, social bookmarking - including
> bookmarklets, etc. - make this more robust than what we currently
> have..
&gt;
> 4) API - a nice API for EVERYTHING, and include a whole bunch of
> examples and widgets.
>
>; Also, we need to constantly focus on:
> 1) Design - the entire site needs to be really easy to use and have
>; (a little bit) more graphic design...
> 2) Before we do this, however, i want to fix all critical bugs and
> make sure the current site is close to 100% working as it should.
>
> --- In mefeedia-users%40yahoogroups.com">mefeedia-usersyahoogroups.com, groups-yahoo-com... wrote:
&gt; >
>; > This is a good a place as any to discuss what vloggers want.
&gt; >
>; > I think personally that mefeedia needs to become thinner.
> >
>; > In simple terms... a little bit more like technoratti, digg, or
> webjay
&gt; > then say a bloglines or especiallya flickr or youtube.
> >
>; > Specifically, instead of focussing on so many mechanisms to
> interact
> > ON mefeedia.com like collections, lists, comments, recommendations,
&gt; > tagging... which are all cool... but instead focusing on these
&gt; which
&gt; > serve only to build value INTO mefeedia... mefeedia should instead
> of
> > adding more tools like this first focus on perfecting tracking and
> > aggreagation of information that comes from vlogs such as. Which
&gt; is to
> > say, not focusing on building internal value, but on tracking
> external
> > value.
&gt; >
>; > So... we should perfect the tools we have for building value on
> > mefeedia, but rather than just building more and more of these
&gt; tools
&gt; > we should focus on perfecting the tools we have and then build more
>; > widgets, bookmarklets and other such tools for both capturing
> value,
&gt; > tracking it, and pushing it back out there.
&gt; >
>; > A great example would be a simple vlogrolling widget, and a
> > bookmarklet or multiple bookmarklets for identifying and working
> with
>; > outside media. For example a single click bookmarklet for adding a
> > youtube video to your queue and/or bookmarking it on mefeedia and
> > tagging it, or adding it to a collection... or something or other.
&gt; >
>; > Here are some other examples.
> >
>; > -comment tracking... this is a great example... instead of
> focusing on
> > on commenting on mefeedia, aggregate, track and drive comment to
> the
> > original vlog... see co.mments.com. At the very minimum we could
&gt; > display the number of comments on the original blog post on
> mefeedia.
> > At the most we could track users comments for them throughout the
> > vlogosphere.
> >
>; > -meme tracking... mefeedia's tag tracking has fallen way behind the
> > times... we talked about meme tracking in depth it seems like a
> year
>; > ago. Since then techmeme.com has pretty much built exactly what I
> was
> > talking about way back then. Essentially what techmeme does is
> track
&gt; > links to determine what's being talked about and who's responging
> to
> > it on blogs and showing it in a threaded manner. Forget the
> tags...
> > forget that it's blog tracking, techmeme just works. I've hear
>; nothing
> > but good things about it. I'm dying to see this sort of tracking
> for
> > vlogs and podcasts. Noone, not ANYONE does this for vlogs... not
> digg
>; > video, not even youtube... well youtube sort of does it. Video
&gt; > responses are something vloggers have LONG wanted.... meme
>; tracking is
> > exactly that.
&gt; >
>; > -tag tracking... revitalize tag tracking... gone but not out...
&gt; > currently mefeedia tag tracking is flakey at best... and possibly
> not
> > working at all... tag tracking is huge on technoratti, slashdot and
> > digg... when combined with techememe type tracking the two rule.
&gt; >
>; > Even among vloggers... mefeedia has lost out on that potential to
> be
> > the technoratti of it's space, failed to meet the needs of the
> > community... it may be harsh but it's true. One example is the "5
> > things&quot; meme... it has been talked about and participated in
> heavily
> > in the vlogosphere... and nowhere has anyone mentioned tracking it
> on
> > mefeedia... which would seem ideal... and one of the primary
> reaosns
> > why... last time I checked there was only ONE item in mefeedia
> tagged
&gt; > with 5 things, and that was something Jan tagged on mefeedia. We've
&gt; > failed Jan, and vloggers everywhere. ;(
> >
>; > Mefeedia MUST get better at tag tracking.... like digg.com, like
>; > delicious, like technoratti, like slashdot. Tags are now a
> fundamental
> > part of disintermediation, tracking and the search space.
&gt; >
>; > -search... mefeedia currently has nearly 1.8 million audio and
> video
&gt; > posts record, and yet NO way to search these individual posts...
> only
>; > for feeds. Search is FUNDAMENTALLY central to mefeedia... in fact
>; if
> > there were only core competencies of mefeedia search would have to
> be
> > one of them.
&gt; >
>; > Overall, mefeedia needs to become thinner, it needs to stear
&gt; (steer?)
> > away from behaving like the following services...
> >
>; > youtube, flickr, blip.tv, bloglines
> >
>; > And it needs to stear toward working like the following
> >
>; > technoratti, digg.com, techmeme, co.comments.
> >
>; > In tearms of wether mefeedia is a "service", a "platform", or a
> > "network"... we must first and foremost be a SERVICE. I've spoken
&gt; a
> > lot about mefeedia's potential to build out the network to make
>; > vlogging go more places, especially beyond the desktop to set top
> > boxes, media servers and the mobile web... however fond I am of
> these
&gt; > ideas mefeedia is in NO place to grow the network until it FIRST
&gt; > succeeds at providing basic services for the vlogging space.
&gt; >
>; > Those services are fundamentally the following
> >
>; > 1) SEARCH... NO other place searches the videoblogging space...
> > NONE... the vlogging space desperately needs search... we need to
> get
> > our ass in gear... secondly there is also need for a great audio
&gt; > podcasting search engine... odeo is the only one I know... there is
> > huge potentials in this area... competition: technoratti...
>; > differentiator = we're MEDIA specific, and we do a couple more
>; things
&gt; > then search, which brings me to the next point...
> >
>; > 2) tracking and aggregation... Once again there is NO tracker and
> no
> > aggregator for the vlogosphere... and by vlogosphere I mean not
> only
>; > the core members on the yahoo group and blip.tv, but also youtube,
> > vsocial, vimeo, revver and the entire scope of all social media
&gt; > services.
> >
>; > The closest competition mefeedia has here is delicious, dabble and
> > bloglines. Del.icio.us a social bookmarker that just happens to
> have
>; > limited support for media, and digg which has recently added
&gt; support
> > for videos and podcasts. And dabble I like but I can't figure
&gt; out...
&gt; > they a sort of playground for media, but they're tricky to use.
>; Maybe
&gt; > we're more alike than I know.
&gt; >
>; > The bottom line is this. Mefeedia must recapture that initial
> > vitality, utility and just plain downright usefulness for the
> > community. To remind people why they fell in love with mefeedia
> and
> > to regain and build trust and a community dialogue. We build on
> that
>; > interaction and trust after rebuilding it by continuing to build
&gt; > valueable widgets and tools and finally to capture the big vision
&gt; to
> > take vlogging as a platform beyond the dekstop platform... not
> just to
> > distribute and syndicate media out to these new platforms, but
> above
&gt; > all to make these new platforms part of a communications network...
> > this is no broadcast network, it's a communications network.
> >
>; > Peace,
&gt; >
>; > -Mike
&gt; > mefeedia.com/blog
> >
>; > On 1/18/07, Jan McLaughlin <jannie.jan...> wrote:
&gt; > > Congrats all the way around. Look forward to all our vlogdreams
> coming true.
&gt; > >
>; > > Jan
> > >
>; > > On 1/18/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck...> wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > And to frame Frank's post:
&gt; > > > We've decided to turn over the reins of mefeedia.com to Frank
&gt; Sinton.
> > > >
>; > > > Frank is planning to keep it running as the best place to find
>; videoblogs,
> > > > focused on independent videoblogs. And of course he'll respect
> all user
>; > > > agreements (ie. he won't spam your emails and such, he'll
&gt; respect CC
> > > > licenses, ...). I've talked to him and I believe he's got all
> the right
&gt; > > > motives. He's on this list, you can ask him your questions
> > > >
>; > > > I made the decision because I just didn't have the time and
> money (those
&gt; > > > servers cost $) to keep mefeedia going. It had grown way
> beyond my
> > > > expectations, it's been getting lots of pageviews and
> attention and I just
>; > > > can't support that anymore. Frank is looking to invest more
>; time and $ in
> > > > mefeedia so rather than let it die a slow death due to lack of
> attention,
> > > > I'd rather have him have it.
> > > >
>; > > > Meanwhile, I have to thank Devlon Duthie and Mike Meiser for
> all their
&gt; > > > incredible work to make mefeedia what it is today, and for all
> the support
> > > > we've gotten from y'all in the past 2 years!
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Let me know if you have any questions!
> > > >
>; > > > Here's a word from Frank:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > "Hello to everyone in the vlogosphere. First of all, thank you
> Peter and
> > > > Devlon (and the many others involved) for creating such a
> great tool for
> > > > videobloggers. Your hard work and support for Mefeedia shows.
&gt; As far as
> > > > plans for Mefeedia, i was actually looking for your input on
> seeing what
>; > > you
> > > > would like to see! Please use this group, email me frank...,
>; or
> > > > join our mefeedia users group:
&gt; > > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefeedia-users/ All
> comments,
> > > > suggestions, and questions are welcome.&quot;
> > > >
>; > > > Cheers,
> > > > Peter
&gt; > > >
>; > > > On 1/18/07, Frank <frank...> wrote:
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > > Hi Mefeedia users - there hasn't been much discussion
> lately, so let's
&gt; > > > > start this up again.
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > What would you like to see in Mefeedia? The sky is the
> limit - let us
> > > > > know!
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Frank
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > --
> > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com
> > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/
> > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net
>; > >
>; > >
>; > > --
> > > The Faux Press - better than real
>; > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > > Yahoo! Groups Links
&gt; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; >
>;
>
>
>
>
&gt; Yahoo! Groups Links
&gt;
>
>
>;

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