Getting Started: Latest Info

I want to get started with a Mephisto-based non-blog site,
and I'm
looking for the latest scoop on how to go about it.
So just to confirm a few doubts:

1. How up-to-date is the wiki - especially the Install page
and other
HowTos

2. How up-to-date is the 0.7.3 release - should I be using
this or the
svn trunk

3. (Corollary to 2) What's in the svn trunk that's not in
the 0.7.3
release? How stable is it, and is it worth it?

4. Is Ruby 1.8.6 and Rails 1.2.3 good enough - or do I need
Rails Edge
for
  a) 0.7.3
  b) the svn trunk

Any other tips for a mephisto newbie?


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On 7/14/07, rhubarb <rover.rhubarbgmail.com> wrote:
>
> I want to get started with a Mephisto-based non-blog
site, and I'm
> looking for the latest scoop on how to go about it.
> So just to confirm a few doubts:
>
> 1. How up-to-date is the wiki - especially the Install
page and other
> HowTos
>
> 2. How up-to-date is the 0.7.3 release - should I be
using this or the
> svn trunk
>
> 3. (Corollary to 2) What's in the svn trunk that's not
in the 0.7.3
> release? How stable is it, and is it worth it?
>
> 4. Is Ruby 1.8.6 and Rails 1.2.3 good enough - or do I
need Rails Edge
> for
>   a) 0.7.3
>   b) the svn trunk
>

Edge rails for trunk, stable for 0.7.3.  Best bet: use the
0.7 branch.
 Trunk is pretty stable, but I wouldn't bother with it
unless you're
comfortable with rails and will fix bugs.

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But there are certain plugins that may require edge
Mephisto.   I know
James Crisp's contact form
<http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2
007/03/contact-feedback-form-plugin-for.html>
to be one example; no idea how many more there are.

Regards,

Philip

On 7/14/07, Rick Olson <technoweeniegmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/14/07, rhubarb <rover.rhubarbgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I want to get started with a Mephisto-based
non-blog site, and I'm
> > looking for the latest scoop on how to go about
it.
> > So just to confirm a few doubts:
> >
> > 1. How up-to-date is the wiki - especially the
Install page and other
> > HowTos
> >
> > 2. How up-to-date is the 0.7.3 release - should I
be using this or the
> > svn trunk
> >
> > 3. (Corollary to 2) What's in the svn trunk that's
not in the 0.7.3
> > release? How stable is it, and is it worth it?
> >
> > 4. Is Ruby 1.8.6 and Rails 1.2.3 good enough - or
do I need Rails Edge
> > for
> >   a) 0.7.3
> >   b) the svn trunk
> >
>
> Edge rails for trunk, stable for 0.7.3.  Best bet: use
the 0.7 branch.
>  Trunk is pretty stable, but I wouldn't bother with it
unless you're
> comfortable with rails and will fix bugs.
>
> --
> Rick Olson
> http://lighthouseapp.com

> http://weblog.techno-
weenie.net
> http://mephistoblog.com
>
> >
>


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Thanks for the replies - some clarifications would set me
straight:

> But there are certain plugins that may require edge
Mephisto.
Hmm. I'd like stability. But I'd like to be able to use
plugins too.
Do I really need mephisto trunk for that? Also what about
HAML, is
that in 0.7.3

> > Edge rails for trunk, stable for 0.7.3.  Best bet:
use the 0.7 branch.
To be clear: are you saying that the 0.7 branch is more
recent than
the 0.7.3 release, but more stable than the trunk? And if
so:
  - Does (0.7 branch) it support plugins
  - Does it require edge rails
  - Will it be released as a stable branch soon.

Is there a tag or branch that will give me new features and
plugins
but which works with Rails 1.2.3??

Remind me how to get rails edge again?


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On 7/16/07, rhubarb <rover.rhubarbgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies - some clarifications would set
me straight:
>
> > But there are certain plugins that may require
edge Mephisto.
> Hmm. I'd like stability. But I'd like to be able to use
plugins too.
> Do I really need mephisto trunk for that? Also what
about HAML, is
> that in 0.7.3
>
> > > Edge rails for trunk, stable for 0.7.3.  Best
bet: use the 0.7 branch.
> To be clear: are you saying that the 0.7 branch is more
recent than
> the 0.7.3 release, but more stable than the trunk? And
if so:
>   - Does (0.7 branch) it support plugins
>   - Does it require edge rails
>   - Will it be released as a stable branch soon.
>
> Is there a tag or branch that will give me new features
and plugins
> but which works with Rails 1.2.3??
>
> Remind me how to get rails edge again?

There's nothing really unstable about trunk, other than its
dependence
on edge rails.  Rails 2.0 is removing deprecations and
changing things
that could break Mephisto at any time.  Mephisto itself is
fine
though.  I use it on all my installations.

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Okay so first I decided to go with the latest. I'm using
InstantRails
here so bear with me.
I installed InstantRails
Got the mephisto trunk from SVN
Set up the database.
Presto - it runs. Download a theme - errors everywhere.
Another theme
- same issue.

Okay I think. I'm using rails 1.2.3 with mephisto trunk. I'd
better
get edge rails. But how in InstantRails (windows)?

I find gem update --source .... somewhere and go with that.
Takes a while but all of the rails gems update. Try it all
again.
Nope.

Now I'm getting problems with gem "can't activate
actionpack version
blah, already activated version greater-than-blah".
Damn. Google google - no help damn. Must be a version
problem.

Okay I give up. Back to basics.
New clean install of InstantRails (with rails 1.2.3)
Download and unzip mephisto stable 0.7.3.
Install, set up database, run server.
Whoops - see this error below:

This one should work. At least with the trunk I got it
working up to
installing themes. With the "stable" setup it
doesn't even run.

WordPress is looking tempting. Please someone tell me I've
done
something obvious wrong and save me from PHP.


 NameError

uninitialized constant
Caboose::Acts::BelongsToWithDeletedAssociation

RAILS_ROOT:
C:/ruby/INSTAN~2/rails_apps/mephisto-0.7.3/config/..
Application Trace | Framework Trace | Full Trace

C:/ruby/INSTAN~2/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1
.4.2/lib/
active_support/dependencies.rb:263:in
`load_missing_constant'
C:/ruby/INSTAN~2/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1
.4.2/lib/
active_support/dependencies.rb:452:in `const_missing'
#/vendor/plugins/acts_as_paranoid/init.rb:7:in
`belongs_to'
C:/ruby/INSTAN~2/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1
.4.2/lib/
active_support/core_ext/object/misc.rb:23:in `returning'
#/vendor/plugins/acts_as_paranoid/init.rb:4:in
`belongs_to'
#/app/models/content.rb:3
#/app/models/article.rb:1





On Jul 16, 10:22 pm, "Pascal Belloncle"
<p...nanorails.com> wrote:
> On 7/16/07, rhubarb <rover.rhub...gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the replies - some clarifications would
set me straight:
>
> > > But there are certain plugins that may
require edge Mephisto.
> > Hmm. I'd like stability. But I'd like to be able
to use plugins too.
> > Do I really need mephisto trunk for that? Also
what about HAML, is
> > that in 0.7.3
>
> You would need trunk for haml or erb support.
>
> Pascal.
>
> > > Edge rails for trunk, stable for 0.7.3.  Best
bet: use the 0.7 branch.
> > To be clear: are you saying that the 0.7 branch is
more recent than
> > the 0.7.3 release, but more stable than the trunk?
And if so:
> >   - Does (0.7 branch) it support plugins
> >   - Does it require edge rails
> >   - Will it be released as a stable branch soon.
>
> > Is there a tag or branch that will give me new
features and plugins
> > but which works with Rails 1.2.3??
>
> > Remind me how to get rails edge again?


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>  NameError
>
> uninitialized constant
Caboose::Acts::BelongsToWithDeletedAssociation

You are in luck, edge rails just broke something in a plugin
mephisto
relies on.  Again, use 0.7 stable 


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Thanks, but that NameError above is using rails stable
release 1.2.3
and mephisto stable release 0.7.3. How come?



On Jul 17, 2:29 am, "Rick Olson"
<technowee...gmail.com> wrote:
> >  NameError
>
> > uninitialized constant
Caboose::Acts::BelongsToWithDeletedAssociation
>
> You are in luck, edge rails just broke something in a
plugin mephisto
> relies on.  Again, use 0.7 stable 
>
> --
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On 7/17/07, rhubarb <rover.rhubarbgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, but that NameError above is using rails stable
release 1.2.3
> and mephisto stable release 0.7.3. How come?

I don't know, it works fine for me.  Go into script/console
and type
User and see what happens.

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