Currency microformat

Hello,

(Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't been
able to get
through in a while. But we'll see)

I'm actually working on a globalization of currencies
project right
now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past too.)

For us, each user of the system has a specified locale. 
(Like:
"en_US", "fr_CA", etc.)  And with
that locale, there is a default
currency associated with that.

In our system there's a PHP function that takes care of
"printing"
money. All it really does is add the proper "currency
symbol" and puts
it in the correct place (for the local).

Although, internally, in the database, currencies info is
stored in
ISO 4217 format.

First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn for this
--
http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern

Maybe something like...

    Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!

Although something like the the following might be better...

    Pay me <span class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!

But it might be more semantic salt than is considered
necessary.  Just
having the abbr with the class-currency near a number might
be good
enough.  But that's open for discussion though.

Thoughts?


Some other things to consider...  there might be an implicit
currency
that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
you have lang="fr-CA" than you could assume the
currency is CAD.  (But
that takes some intelligence to do that kind of mapping.)

(Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we are
consistently
using the "lang" attribute in our system.)


Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be useful to
see what
others are doing too.


See ya

On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A recent discussion with a travelling friend has
sparked some ideas
> about a microformat for displaying prices and other
currency-based
> figures.
>
> The classic problem example would be a page stating a
price of "$50".
> Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money?

>
> So anyway I'm following The Process
> (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
> existing formats/work. So far I've only seen the ISO
standard for
> three-letter codes, no format or microformat for
consistently
> displaying them.
>
> Does anyone know of relevant resources I should check
out?
>
> cheers,
>
> Ben


-- 
    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

    charles  reptile.ca
    supercanadian  gmail.com

    developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
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Hello,

Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes...

    http://www.xe.com/iso42
17.htm


Also, here's an example of the "$" being used
in (Canadian) French...

    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_
CA

Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number.

The same page in (USA) English can be seen here...

    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=en_
US

(Just some example for the "examples in the
wild".)

See ya

On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't
been able to get
> through in a while. But we'll see)
>
> I'm actually working on a globalization of currencies
project right
> now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past too.)
>
> For us, each user of the system has a specified locale.
 (Like:
> "en_US", "fr_CA", etc.)  And
with that locale, there is a default
> currency associated with that.
>
> In our system there's a PHP function that takes care
of "printing"
> money. All it really does is add the proper
"currency symbol" and puts
> it in the correct place (for the local).
>
> Although, internally, in the database, currencies info
is stored in
> ISO 4217 format.
>
> First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn for
this --
> http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern
>
> Maybe something like...
>
>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!
>
> Although something like the the following might be
better...
>
>     Pay me <span
class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
>
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!
>
> But it might be more semantic salt than is considered
necessary.  Just
> having the abbr with the class-currency near a number
might be good
> enough.  But that's open for discussion though.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could assume
the currency is CAD.  (But
> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)
>
> (Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we are
consistently
> using the "lang" attribute in our system.)
>
>
> Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be
useful to see what
> others are doing too.
>
>
> See ya
>
> On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A recent discussion with a travelling friend has
sparked some ideas
> > about a microformat for displaying prices and
other currency-based
> > figures.
> >
> > The classic problem example would be a page
stating a price of "$50".
> > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly
money? 
> >
> > So anyway I'm following The Process
> > (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
> > existing formats/work. So far I've only seen the
ISO standard for
> > three-letter codes, no format or microformat for
consistently
> > displaying them.
> >
> > Does anyone know of relevant resources I should
check out?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Ben


-- 
    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

    charles  reptile.ca
    supercanadian  gmail.com

    developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
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On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
> Maybe something like...
>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!

Something along these lines would be pretty sensible IMO

> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could assume
the currency is CAD.  (But
> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)

I'm very wary of this - a website in France might want to
provide an
English translation for international customers, but
shouldn't have to
then convert all the costs into GBP, for instance.
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On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
> Maybe something like...
>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!

Something along these lines would be pretty sensible IMO

> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could assume
the currency is CAD.  (But
> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)

I'm very wary of this - a website in France might want to
provide an
English translation for international customers, but
shouldn't have to
then convert all the costs into GBP, for instance.
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I may be totally out in left field because I haven't really
studied  
up on the wiki as much as I should have but wouldn't
something like  
this make more sense in terms of a currency microformat:

<span class="money"><abbr
class="currency" title="CAD
eng">$</ 
abbr><span
class="amount">5.00</span></span>

In this format the wrapping would be "money" or
something similar  
followed by either the actual "amount" or the
"currency", depending  
on what rules your country/language follows in regards to
the order.  
Since there can be a difference between different languages
within  
countries I thought it might be a good idea to include that
in the  
"currency" definition of the formating, eg.,
"CAD eng" or "CAD fr".  
It could also give sites that list multiple languages a way
to  
differentiate when they show multiple prices.

So far on the examples sent to the list there has been no
definition  
around the actual dollar amount which confused me a bit.
I'm curious,  
is there a reason for that?

Feel free to let me know if I'm missing the point
completely as I am  
new to the world of microformats.

Cheers,
Mike Stickel

On Jul 18, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes...
>
>    http://www.xe.com/iso42
17.htm
>
>
> Also, here's an example of the "$" being
used in (Canadian) French...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_
CA
>
> Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number.
>
> The same page in (USA) English can be seen here...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=en_
US
>
> (Just some example for the "examples in the
wild".)
>
> See ya
>
> On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't
been able to get
>> through in a while. But we'll see)
>>
>> I'm actually working on a globalization of
currencies project right
>> now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past
too.)
>>
>> For us, each user of the system has a specified
locale.  (Like:
>> "en_US", "fr_CA", etc.) 
And with that locale, there is a default
>> currency associated with that.
>>
>> In our system there's a PHP function that takes
care of "printing"
>> money. All it really does is add the proper
"currency symbol" and  
>> puts
>> it in the correct place (for the local).
>>
>> Although, internally, in the database, currencies
info is stored in
>> ISO 4217 format.
>>
>> First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn
for this --
>> http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern
>>
>> Maybe something like...
>>
>>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!
>>
>> Although something like the the following might be
better...
>>
>>     Pay me <span
class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
>>
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!
>>
>> But it might be more semantic salt than is
considered necessary.   
>> Just
>> having the abbr with the class-currency near a
number might be good
>> enough.  But that's open for discussion though.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
>> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
>> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could
assume the currency is CAD.   
>> (But
>> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)
>>
>> (Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we
are consistently
>> using the "lang" attribute in our
system.)
>>
>>
>> Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be
useful to see what
>> others are doing too.
>>
>>
>> See ya
>>
>> On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A recent discussion with a travelling friend
has sparked some ideas
>> > about a microformat for displaying prices and
other currency-based
>> > figures.
>> >
>> > The classic problem example would be a page
stating a price of  
>> "$50".
>> > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars?
Monopoly money? 
>> >
>> > So anyway I'm following The Process
>> > (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
>> > existing formats/work. So far I've only seen
the ISO standard for
>> > three-letter codes, no format or microformat
for consistently
>> > displaying them.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of relevant resources I
should check out?
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > Ben
>
>    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.


Mike Stickel
Screenflicker Developments | GoNecksGo | ChanceCube
http://screenflicker.com
| http://gonecksgo.com |
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I may be totally out in left field because I haven't really
studied  
up on the wiki as much as I should have but wouldn't
something like  
this make more sense in terms of a currency microformat:

<span class="money"><abbr
class="currency" title="CAD
eng">$</ 
abbr><span
class="amount">5.00</span></span>

In this format the wrapping would be "money" or
something similar  
followed by either the actual "amount" or the
"currency", depending  
on what rules your country/language follows in regards to
the order.  
Since there can be a difference between different languages
within  
countries I thought it might be a good idea to include that
in the  
"currency" definition of the formating, eg.,
"CAD eng" or "CAD fr".  
It could also give sites that list multiple languages a way
to  
differentiate when they show multiple prices.

So far on the examples sent to the list there has been no
definition  
around the actual dollar amount which confused me a bit.
I'm curious,  
is there a reason for that?

Feel free to let me know if I'm missing the point
completely as I am  
new to the world of microformats.

Cheers,
Mike Stickel

On Jul 18, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes...
>
>    http://www.xe.com/iso42
17.htm
>
>
> Also, here's an example of the "$" being
used in (Canadian) French...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_
CA
>
> Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number.
>
> The same page in (USA) English can be seen here...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=en_
US
>
> (Just some example for the "examples in the
wild".)
>
> See ya
>
> On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't
been able to get
>> through in a while. But we'll see)
>>
>> I'm actually working on a globalization of
currencies project right
>> now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past
too.)
>>
>> For us, each user of the system has a specified
locale.  (Like:
>> "en_US", "fr_CA", etc.) 
And with that locale, there is a default
>> currency associated with that.
>>
>> In our system there's a PHP function that takes
care of "printing"
>> money. All it really does is add the proper
"currency symbol" and  
>> puts
>> it in the correct place (for the local).
>>
>> Although, internally, in the database, currencies
info is stored in
>> ISO 4217 format.
>>
>> First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn
for this --
>> http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern
>>
>> Maybe something like...
>>
>>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!
>>
>> Although something like the the following might be
better...
>>
>>     Pay me <span
class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
>>
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!
>>
>> But it might be more semantic salt than is
considered necessary.   
>> Just
>> having the abbr with the class-currency near a
number might be good
>> enough.  But that's open for discussion though.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
>> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
>> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could
assume the currency is CAD.   
>> (But
>> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)
>>
>> (Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we
are consistently
>> using the "lang" attribute in our
system.)
>>
>>
>> Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be
useful to see what
>> others are doing too.
>>
>>
>> See ya
>>
>> On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A recent discussion with a travelling friend
has sparked some ideas
>> > about a microformat for displaying prices and
other currency-based
>> > figures.
>> >
>> > The classic problem example would be a page
stating a price of  
>> "$50".
>> > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars?
Monopoly money? 
>> >
>> > So anyway I'm following The Process
>> > (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
>> > existing formats/work. So far I've only seen
the ISO standard for
>> > three-letter codes, no format or microformat
for consistently
>> > displaying them.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of relevant resources I
should check out?
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > Ben
>
>    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.


Mike Stickel
Screenflicker Developments | GoNecksGo | ChanceCube
http://screenflicker.com
| http://gonecksgo.com |
http://chancecube.com

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I may be totally out in left field because I haven't really
studied  
up on the wiki as much as I should have but wouldn't
something like  
this make more sense in terms of a currency microformat:

<span class="money"><abbr
class="currency" title="CAD
eng">$</ 
abbr><span
class="amount">5.00</span></span>

In this format the wrapping would be "money" or
something similar  
followed by either the actual "amount" or the
"currency", depending  
on what rules your country/language follows in regards to
the order.  
Since there can be a difference between different languages
within  
countries I thought it might be a good idea to include that
in the  
"currency" definition of the formating, eg.,
"CAD eng" or "CAD fr".  
It could also give sites that list multiple languages a way
to  
differentiate when they show multiple prices.

So far on the examples sent to the list there has been no
definition  
around the actual dollar amount which confused me a bit.
I'm curious,  
is there a reason for that?

Feel free to let me know if I'm missing the point
completely as I am  
new to the world of microformats.

Cheers,
Mike Stickel

On Jul 18, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes...
>
>    http://www.xe.com/iso42
17.htm
>
>
> Also, here's an example of the "$" being
used in (Canadian) French...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_
CA
>
> Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number.
>
> The same page in (USA) English can be seen here...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=en_
US
>
> (Just some example for the "examples in the
wild".)
>
> See ya
>
> On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't
been able to get
>> through in a while. But we'll see)
>>
>> I'm actually working on a globalization of
currencies project right
>> now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past
too.)
>>
>> For us, each user of the system has a specified
locale.  (Like:
>> "en_US", "fr_CA", etc.) 
And with that locale, there is a default
>> currency associated with that.
>>
>> In our system there's a PHP function that takes
care of "printing"
>> money. All it really does is add the proper
"currency symbol" and  
>> puts
>> it in the correct place (for the local).
>>
>> Although, internally, in the database, currencies
info is stored in
>> ISO 4217 format.
>>
>> First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn
for this --
>> http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern
>>
>> Maybe something like...
>>
>>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!
>>
>> Although something like the the following might be
better...
>>
>>     Pay me <span
class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
>>
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!
>>
>> But it might be more semantic salt than is
considered necessary.   
>> Just
>> having the abbr with the class-currency near a
number might be good
>> enough.  But that's open for discussion though.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
>> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
>> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could
assume the currency is CAD.   
>> (But
>> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)
>>
>> (Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we
are consistently
>> using the "lang" attribute in our
system.)
>>
>>
>> Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be
useful to see what
>> others are doing too.
>>
>>
>> See ya
>>
>> On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A recent discussion with a travelling friend
has sparked some ideas
>> > about a microformat for displaying prices and
other currency-based
>> > figures.
>> >
>> > The classic problem example would be a page
stating a price of  
>> "$50".
>> > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars?
Monopoly money? 
>> >
>> > So anyway I'm following The Process
>> > (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
>> > existing formats/work. So far I've only seen
the ISO standard for
>> > three-letter codes, no format or microformat
for consistently
>> > displaying them.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of relevant resources I
should check out?
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > Ben
>
>    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.


Mike Stickel
Screenflicker Developments | GoNecksGo | ChanceCube
http://screenflicker.com
| http://gonecksgo.com |
http://chancecube.com

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I may be totally out in left field because I haven't really
studied  
up on the wiki as much as I should have but wouldn't
something like  
this make more sense in terms of a currency microformat:

<span class="money"><abbr
class="currency" title="CAD
eng">$</ 
abbr><span
class="amount">5.00</span></span>

In this format the wrapping would be "money" or
something similar  
followed by either the actual "amount" or the
"currency", depending  
on what rules your country/language follows in regards to
the order.  
Since there can be a difference between different languages
within  
countries I thought it might be a good idea to include that
in the  
"currency" definition of the formating, eg.,
"CAD eng" or "CAD fr".  
It could also give sites that list multiple languages a way
to  
differentiate when they show multiple prices.

So far on the examples sent to the list there has been no
definition  
around the actual dollar amount which confused me a bit.
I'm curious,  
is there a reason for that?

Feel free to let me know if I'm missing the point
completely as I am  
new to the world of microformats.

Cheers,
Mike Stickel

On Jul 18, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here's a handy list of ISO 4217 codes...
>
>    http://www.xe.com/iso42
17.htm
>
>
> Also, here's an example of the "$" being
used in (Canadian) French...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=fr_
CA
>
> Note the placement of the dollar sign AFTER the number.
>
> The same page in (USA) English can be seen here...
>
>    https://secure.vmp.com/signup/adv_signup.php?locale=en_
US
>
> (Just some example for the "examples in the
wild".)
>
> See ya
>
> On 7/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <charlesreptile.ca> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> (Hopefully this will get to the mailing... haven't
been able to get
>> through in a while. But we'll see)
>>
>> I'm actually working on a globalization of
currencies project right
>> now.  (And have dealt with this issue in the past
too.)
>>
>> For us, each user of the system has a specified
locale.  (Like:
>> "en_US", "fr_CA", etc.) 
And with that locale, there is a default
>> currency associated with that.
>>
>> In our system there's a PHP function that takes
care of "printing"
>> money. All it really does is add the proper
"currency symbol" and  
>> puts
>> it in the correct place (for the local).
>>
>> Although, internally, in the database, currencies
info is stored in
>> ISO 4217 format.
>>
>> First guess would be to use the abbr design pattenn
for this --
>> http
://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern
>>
>> Maybe something like...
>>
>>     Pay me <abbr class="currency"
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00 now!
>>
>> Although something like the the following might be
better...
>>
>>     Pay me <span
class="money"><abbr
class="currency"
>>
title="CAD">$</abbr>5.00</span>
now!
>>
>> But it might be more semantic salt than is
considered necessary.   
>> Just
>> having the abbr with the class-currency near a
number might be good
>> enough.  But that's open for discussion though.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Some other things to consider...  there might be an
implicit currency
>> that comes with what's defined in the HTML
"lang" attribute.  Like if
>> you have lang="fr-CA" than you could
assume the currency is CAD.   
>> (But
>> that takes some intelligence to do that kind of
mapping.)
>>
>> (Also, I know this is bad.  But I don't think we
are consistently
>> using the "lang" attribute in our
system.)
>>
>>
>> Also, this is all just my experience.  It would be
useful to see what
>> others are doing too.
>>
>>
>> See ya
>>
>> On 7/17/06, Ben Buchanan <wzqtptl02sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A recent discussion with a travelling friend
has sparked some ideas
>> > about a microformat for displaying prices and
other currency-based
>> > figures.
>> >
>> > The classic problem example would be a page
stating a price of  
>> "$50".
>> > Is that Australian dollars? US dollars?
Monopoly money? 
>> >
>> > So anyway I'm following The Process
>> > (http://microform
ats.org/wiki/process) and I'm up to searching for
>> > existing formats/work. So far I've only seen
the ISO standard for
>> > three-letter codes, no format or microformat
for consistently
>> > displaying them.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of relevant resources I
should check out?
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > Ben
>
>    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.


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On 7/18/06, Mike Stickel <mikescreenflicker.com>
wrote:
>Since there can be a difference between different
languages within
> countries I thought it might be a good idea to include
that in the
> "currency" definition of the formating,
eg., "CAD eng" or "CAD fr".

If you need to specify the language, for instance to
indicate how to
interpret the chars/spacing in the number formatting, HTML
has the
lang
attribute which covers this   (lang="fr_CA"
and lang="en_CA"
in this case).

However, there's been a lot of close coupling of the
concepts of
'language' and 'currency' in this discussion so far and
I don't think
that's at all necessary - I should be able to go to a
foreign website
that provides an English translation without my user-agent
assuming
the  prices are in US Dollars, for example.

> So far on the examples sent to the list there has been
no definition
> around the actual dollar amount which confused me a
bit. I'm curious,
> is there a reason for that?

The only microformat that I've noticed currency units in is
hListing,
and that deliberately shies away from parsing the actual
values
because it's too free-form in most existing Listing
formats.

My own preference would be for something like:
<p class="money">This item costs
  <span class="currency">GBP</span>
  <span class="amount">10.00</span>
</p>

Which with similar parsing rules to existing formats would
also allow
things like:
<p class="money">
  It'll cost you
  <abbr class="currency"
title="50.00">fifty</abbr>
  <abbr class="amount"
title="GBP">quid</abbr>
  , mate!
</p>

Or, a more complex example with multiple languages:
<p lang="en">
<span class="money">

  <span class="amount">50</span>
  <abbr class="currency"
title="GBP">&pound;</abbr>
</span>
<span lang="fr" class="money">
  (c'est
  <span class="amount">75</span>
  <abbr class="currency"
title="EUR">&euro;</abbr>
  pour ca)
</span>
</p>

(sorry about the bad french)

It'd be pretty neat to have a browser widget that converted
all the
USD prices on an American site into their equivalent GBP on
mouseover,
or something along those lines.

-C
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On 7/18/06, Mike Stickel <mikescreenflicker.com>
wrote:
>Since there can be a difference between different
languages within
> countries I thought it might be a good idea to include
that in the
> "currency" definition of the formating,
eg., "CAD eng" or "CAD fr".

If you need to specify the language, for instance to
indicate how to
interpret the chars/spacing in the number formatting, HTML
has the
lang
attribute which covers this   (lang="fr_CA"
and lang="en_CA"
in this case).

However, there's been a lot of close coupling of the
concepts of
'language' and 'currency' in this discussion so far and
I don't think
that's at all necessary - I should be able to go to a
foreign website
that provides an English translation without my user-agent
assuming
the  prices are in US Dollars, for example.

> So far on the examples sent to the list there has been
no definition
> around the actual dollar amount which confused me a
bit. I'm curious,
> is there a reason for that?

The only microformat that I've noticed currency units in is
hListing,
and that deliberately shies away from parsing the actual
values
because it's too free-form in most existing Listing
formats.

My own preference would be for something like:
<p class="money">This item costs
  <span class="currency">GBP</span>
  <span class="amount">10.00</span>
</p>

Which with similar parsing rules to existing formats would
also allow
things like:
<p class="money">
  It'll cost you
  <abbr class="currency"
title="50.00">fifty</abbr>
  <abbr class="amount"
title="GBP">quid</abbr>
  , mate!
</p>

Or, a more complex example with multiple languages:
<p lang="en">
<span class="money">

  <span class="amount">50</span>
  <abbr class="currency"
title="GBP">&pound;</abbr>
</span>
<span lang="fr" class="money">
  (c'est
  <span class="amount">75</span>
  <abbr class="currency"
title="EUR">&euro;</abbr>
  pour ca)
</span>
</p>

(sorry about the bad french)

It'd be pretty neat to have a browser widget that converted
all the
USD prices on an American site into their equivalent GBP on
mouseover,
or something along those lines.

-C
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