List Info

Thread: Google Base API




Google Base API
user name
2006-08-24 06:25:21
WTF.

http://code.google.
com/apis/base/

It's like from outer space. But unreal.

Chris

-- 
Chris Messina
Agent Provocateur, Citizen Agency &
  Open Source Ambassador-at-Large
Work: http://citizenagency.com
Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog

Cell: 412 225-1051
Skype: factoryjoe
This email is:   [X] bloggable    [ ] ask first   [ ]
private
_______________________________________________
microformats-discuss mailing list
microformats-discussmicroformats.org
http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
Google Base API
user name
2006-08-24 10:50:22
- Google Base data API is more or less the Atom Publishing
Protocol.
- This means you can read/write/search
- The GBase data model is just adding key/value pairs to
each entry
- Google Base is a store of records/entries with these
key/values
- key can come from a predefined list or you can make up
your own
- limited access to your Google Base silo can be assigned to
a 3rd party

It's actually fairly straight forward, though obviously
there's a
limit to what you can model without hierarchy. There is
another data
model Google provides called the GData model which isn't
compatible
but allows for deeper structures.

More analysis here [1]

Regards, etc...
David

[1] http://blogmatrix.semantic.blogmatrix.com/google%20base/



On 8/24/06, Chris Messina <chris.messinagmail.com> wrote:
> WTF.
>
> http://code.google.
com/apis/base/
>
> It's like from outer space. But unreal.
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris Messina
> Agent Provocateur, Citizen Agency &
>   Open Source Ambassador-at-Large
> Work: http://citizenagency.com
> Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog

> Cell: 412 225-1051
> Skype: factoryjoe
> This email is:   [X] bloggable    [ ] ask first   [ ]
private
> _______________________________________________
> microformats-discuss mailing list
> microformats-discussmicroformats.org
> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
>
_______________________________________________
microformats-discuss mailing list
microformats-discussmicroformats.org
http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
Google Base API
user name
2006-08-24 17:27:27
On 8/24/06, David Janes <davidjanesblogmatrix.com> wrote:
> There is another data
> model Google provides called the GData model which
isn't compatible
> but allows for deeper structures.

I think that's my big issue... they keep releasing these
APIs, which,
on the one hand, is great... And it's good that they're
using Atom.

However, microformats seem a whole lot easier and a lower
barrier to
entry in many respects (though they'd have to get involved
in the
community process which may be too slow for them). At the
very least,
supporting both microformats and their own made up magical
API would
be a nice overture.

IMHO. Heh.

Chris

>
> On 8/24/06, Chris Messina <chris.messinagmail.com> wrote:
> > WTF.
> >
> > http://code.google.
com/apis/base/
> >
> > It's like from outer space. But unreal.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > Chris Messina
> > Agent Provocateur, Citizen Agency &
> >   Open Source Ambassador-at-Large
> > Work: http://citizenagency.com
> > Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog

> > Cell: 412 225-1051
> > Skype: factoryjoe
> > This email is:   [X] bloggable    [ ] ask first  
[ ] private
> > _______________________________________________
> > microformats-discuss mailing list
> > microformats-discussmicroformats.org
> > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> microformats-discuss mailing list
> microformats-discussmicroformats.org
> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
>


-- 
Chris Messina
Agent Provocateur, Citizen Agency &
  Open Source Ambassador-at-Large
Work: http://citizenagency.com
Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog

Cell: 412 225-1051
Skype: factoryjoe
This email is:   [ ] bloggable    [X] ask first   [ ]
private
_______________________________________________
microformats-discuss mailing list
microformats-discussmicroformats.org
http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
Google Base API
user name
2006-08-24 18:23:50
On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

> However, microformats seem a whole lot easier and a
lower barrier to
> entry in many respects (though they'd have to get
involved in the
> community process which may be too slow for them). At
the very least,
> supporting both microformats and their own made up
magical API would
> be a nice overture.

If you think a microformats API to Google Base would be
useful, why  
not build one on top of the existing API?  Live applications
make for  
more compelling arguments.

Peace,
Scott

_______________________________________________
microformats-discuss mailing list
microformats-discussmicroformats.org
http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
Google Base API
user name
2006-08-24 20:49:45
Google Base is explicitly trying to do something that
Microformats are
not: boil the ocean, or in this particular case, a sea in
the ocean.

Google Base silos are basically spreadsheets; each record is
a row in
the spreadsheet. How do you model that in Microformats? In
fact, the
best/easiest way of modeling that is supported by Google
Base: you can
upload CSV files. The Google Base data API just provides a
simple way
of expressing that spreadsheet in XML. Marc Canter's
bizarre rant this
morning about standards aside, I know of no standard
alternative way
to do this. RDF/XML is too expressive, Microformats doesn't
try to be
expressive outside of defined problems.

BTW: I demoed in April a quick and dirty hCalendar to Google
Calendar
translator (the API to Google Calendar is GData). I didn't
pursue this
any further except to demo as a trick because Google didn't
provide a
mechanism for 3rd parties to post on your behalf, which
meant your
password would have to be given up. With AuthSub [2] this is
no longer
an issue so perhaps it's worth reinvestigating.

Regards, etc...
David

[1] http://bl
og.davidjanes.com/:search:democamp
[2] http:/
/code.google.com/apis/gdata/authsub.html

On 8/24/06, Scott Reynen <scottrandomchaos.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>
> > However, microformats seem a whole lot easier and
a lower barrier to
> > entry in many respects (though they'd have to get
involved in the
> > community process which may be too slow for them).
At the very least,
> > supporting both microformats and their own made up
magical API would
> > be a nice overture.
>
> If you think a microformats API to Google Base would be
useful, why
> not build one on top of the existing API?  Live
applications make for
> more compelling arguments.
>
> Peace,
> Scott
>
> _______________________________________________
> microformats-discuss mailing list
> microformats-discussmicroformats.org
> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
>
_______________________________________________
microformats-discuss mailing list
microformats-discussmicroformats.org
http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
[1-5]

about | contact  Other archives ( Real Estate discussion Medical topics )