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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-22 20:13:23
I've marked-up another page with hAtom:

        <http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm
>

using the format:

        <li class="hentry">

                <abbr class="updated
entry-title" title="2006-09-20">
                20th
                </abbr>
                :

                <span class="entry-content">
                [text]
                </span>
        </li>

All seems well, except that the "AUMP" reports the
"entry title" of such
an entry as "20th", where I would have expected it
to be "2006-09-20".

Am I right? Is the hAtom markup correct?

Any other observations will be welcome.
-- 
Andy Mabbett
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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-22 20:27:33
AUMFP is correct. It doesn't let <abbr> be an all
purpose content
hider. This trick might work to your satisfacation:

<span class="entry-content
entry-title">...</span>

Perhaps

Regards, etc...

On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett <andypigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:
>
> I've marked-up another page with hAtom:
>
>         <http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm
>
>
> using the format:
>
>         <li class="hentry">
>
>                 <abbr class="updated
entry-title" title="2006-09-20">
>                 20th
>                 </abbr>
>                 :
>
>                 <span
class="entry-content">
>                 [text]
>                 </span>
>         </li>
>
> All seems well, except that the "AUMP"
reports the "entry title" of such
> an entry as "20th", where I would have
expected it to be "2006-09-20".
>
> Am I right? Is the hAtom markup correct?
>
> Any other observations will be welcome.
> --
> Andy Mabbett
>                 Say "NO!" to compulsory ID
Cards:  <http://www.no2id.net/>
>
>                 Free Our Data:  <http://www.freeourd
ata.org.uk>
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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-22 22:32:54
In message
<21e523c20609221327h50d8fb26k5be64ee7239d1b51mail.gmail.com>, David
Janes <davidjanesblogmatrix.com> writes

>On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett <andypigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:
>>
>> I've marked-up another page with hAtom:
>>
>>         <http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm
>
>>
>> using the format:
>>
>>         <li class="hentry">
>>
>>                 <abbr class="updated
entry-title" title="2006-09-20">
>>                 20th
>>                 </abbr>
>>                 :
>>
>>                 <span
class="entry-content">
>>                 [text]
>>                 </span>
>>         </li>
>>
>> All seems well, except that the "AUMP"
reports the "entry title" of such
>> an entry as "20th", where I would have
expected it to be "2006-09-20".

>AUMFP is correct. It doesn't let <abbr> be an all
purpose content
>hider. This trick might work to your satisfacation:
>
><span class="entry-content
entry-title">...</span>

Thank you, but no. The data in the "content" is
not suitable for use in
the "title" (and vice versa).

-- 
Andy Mabbett
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<http://www.no2id.net/>

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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-22 23:03:51
On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:27 PM, David Janes wrote:

> AUMFP is correct. It doesn't let <abbr> be an all
purpose content
> hider. This trick might work to your satisfacation:

That's not the way other implementations work. Or other
microformats,  
for that matter. Did you write something specific for hAtom
about this?

-ryan
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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-22 23:08:45
Did something change or did I misinterpret a spec? Can I do
this?

<abbr class="entry-content" title="Here's
the real entry content even
though it's not visible to the user but it's what I want the
computer
to see">
This text appears in the browser but when we parse the
document it
will disappear.
</abbr>

Regards, etc...

On 9/22/06, Ryan King <ryantechnorati.com> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:27 PM, David Janes wrote:
>
> > AUMFP is correct. It doesn't let <abbr> be
an all purpose content
> > hider. This trick might work to your
satisfacation:
>
> That's not the way other implementations work. Or other
microformats,
> for that matter. Did you write something specific for
hAtom about this?
>
> -ryan
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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-23 16:37:35
On Sep 22, 2006, at 4:08 PM, David Janes wrote:

> Did something change or did I misinterpret a spec? Can
I do this?
>
> <abbr class="entry-content"
title="Here's the real entry content even
> though it's not visible to the user but it's what I
want the computer
> to see">
> This text appears in the browser but when we parse the
document it
> will disappear.
> </abbr>

Well, I don't think you misinterpreted any spec. However,
other  
formats (hcard, for example []) allow abbrtitle for
everything.  
Consistency on this issue would be a good idea.

-ryan
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Another hAtom check, please
user name
2006-09-23 16:42:00
On Sep 23, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Ryan King wrote:

> Well, I don't think you misinterpreted any spec.
However, other  
> formats (hcard, for example []) allow abbrtitle for
everything.  
> Consistency on this issue would be a good idea.

arg, I forgot the citation:

[]: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Human_vs._Machin
e_readable

-ryan
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