Criticism of Microformats

In message <C13C306A.7BB10%tantekcs.stanford.edu>, Tantek
Çelik
<tantekcs.stanford.edu> writes

>On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, "Andy Mabbett"
<andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> It seemed to me that a page linking to
(non-hysterical) criticism of
>> Microformats might be useful, so I created one:
>>
>>       <ttp://microformats.org/wiki/criticism>
>
>This is certainly a reasonable approach, to openly
confront criticisms and
>thus dispose of them.

You seem to discount the possibility of recognising,
accepting and
addressing them.

>  So far we have been using the FAQ as a general place
>to clarify/answer general criticisms/issues.

If people are discussing microformats elsewhere, then
they're not
necessarily going to see the FAQ (at least not unless
somebody goes to
that place and pints them at it)

>> as always, please feel free to add to and develop
it (even if it is "my
>> idea, my proposal and my research"!)
>
>Andy, regarding that in particular, clearly you've been
quite prolific in
>your contributions to the microformats wiki and you are
to be commended and
>recognized for your contributions (as should anyone who
makes such
>substantial contributions to wiki pages).
>
>If you'd like, I encourage you to add a
"Contributors" section to the pages
>you've created and list your name.

Thank you; I wasn't seeking self-glorification, merely
quoting something
said elsewhere in this list. Perhaps we need a microformat
to identify
irony 
-- 
Andy Mabbett
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On 9/24/06 2:05 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

> In message <C13C306A.7BB10%tantekcs.stanford.edu>, Tantek Çelik
> <tantekcs.stanford.edu> writes
> 
>> On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, "Andy Mabbett"
<andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> It seemed to me that a page linking to
(non-hysterical) criticism of
>>> Microformats might be useful, so I created one:
>>> 
>>>      
<ttp://microformats.org/wiki/criticism>
>> 
>> This is certainly a reasonable approach, to openly
confront criticisms and
>> thus dispose of them.
> 
> You seem to discount the possibility of recognising,
accepting and
> addressing them.

Apologies, "dispose" as in "disposition of
comments" is W3C jargon (at least
that's where I learned it) for accepting and addressing
comments/criticism.

 http://google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.
w3.org+%22Disposition+of+Comments%22

So no, not discounting at all, rather quite the opposite.


>>  So far we have been using the FAQ as a general
place
>> to clarify/answer general criticisms/issues.
> 
> If people are discussing microformats elsewhere, then
they're not
> necessarily going to see the FAQ (at least not unless
somebody goes to
> that place and pints them at it)

That's ok.  As long as the community deals with it and
publishes it, the
information will eventually be found.  We can make it much
easier to find
and browse on microformats.org rather than scattered across
random forums
which may not even have decent permalinks.  That being said
it doesn't hurt
to at least post links in those other fora to the
dispositions of
comments/criticisms/issues on microformats.org.


>>> as always, please feel free to add to and
develop it (even if it is "my
>>> idea, my proposal and my research"!)
>> 
>> Andy, regarding that in particular, clearly you've
been quite prolific in
>> your contributions to the microformats wiki and you
are to be commended and
>> recognized for your contributions (as should anyone
who makes such
>> substantial contributions to wiki pages).
>> 
>> If you'd like, I encourage you to add a
"Contributors" section to the pages
>> you've created and list your name.
> 
> Thank you; I wasn't seeking self-glorification,

I wasn't implying that you were. I meant what I said,
recognition is valid.

> merely quoting something
> said elsewhere in this list. Perhaps we need a
microformat to identify
> irony 

Perhaps, though we really should start with a
smiley-examples page just to
make sure we first document existing practice ;)

I meant it about "Contributors" sections.  I
repeat the encouragement for
you to add them.

Thanks,

Tantek

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