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rel="license" and citation
user name
2006-11-18 07:16:16
hReview can use rel="license" to show that the
license, not the page
itself, is available under a certain license.

Why not do the page for citations, so that I can cite, say,
a Wordsworth
poem, and indicate that the poem, but not my page, is public
domain?

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rel="license" and citation
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2006-11-18 08:55:03
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 07:16 +0000, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> hReview can use rel="license" to show that
the license, not the page
> itself, is available under a certain license.

You meant "... to show that the contents of the hReview
itself is
licensed, not the page ..."

> Why not do the page for citations, so that I can cite,
say, a Wordsworth
> poem, and indicate that the poem, but not my page, is
public domain?

If you want to be symmetric with
ht
tp://microformats.org/wiki/hReview#Field_details
rel="license" in a
citation would be saying that the contents of the citation
is licensed,
not the cited work.




On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 07:25 +0000, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> I'm starting to look at using rel="license".
Am I right in thing that
> it
> can be used to indicate that a page is NOT available
under a license,
> as
> well as for those that are? For instance:
> 
>         This page is <a rel="license"
>         href="http://
www.example.com/copyright>copyright Example Ltd.
>         2006</a> and may not be reproduced.
> 
I'm not sure what the point of this would be as default
copyright is ...
the default, but I also don't know why
rel="license" couldn't be used to
refer to a restrictive license statement, including one that
says no
rights are granted.



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rel="license" and citation
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2006-11-18 18:38:22
In message <1163840103.5880.26.camellocalhost.localdomain>, Mike
Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org> writes

>On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 07:16 +0000, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> hReview can use rel="license" to show
that the license, not the page
>> itself, is available under a certain license.
>
>You meant "... to show that the contents of the
hReview itself is
>licensed, not the page ..."

Indeed. Thank you.

>> Why not do the page for citations, so that I can
cite, say, a Wordsworth
>> poem, and indicate that the poem, but not my page,
is public domain?

I also meant "why not do the /same/ for citations...

Goodness knows what happened to my typing, this morning...

>If you want to be symmetric with
>ht
tp://microformats.org/wiki/hReview#Field_details
rel="license" in a
>citation would be saying that the contents of the
citation is licensed,
>not the cited work.

Perhaps,; but that's unlikely to be the case - often, if not
usually, a
citation is "fair use", regardless of the
copyright or license state of
the source.

>On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 07:25 +0000, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> I'm starting to look at using
rel="license". Am I right in thing that
>> it
>> can be used to indicate that a page is NOT
available under a license,
>> as
>> well as for those that are? For instance:
>>
>>         This page is <a rel="license"
>>         href="http://
www.example.com/copyright>copyright Example Ltd.
>>         2006</a> and may not be reproduced.
>>
>I'm not sure what the point of this would be as default
copyright is
>... the default

Yes, but /whose/ copyright?

Consider, on one site:

         This page is <a rel="license"
         href="http://
www.example.com/copyright>copyright Example Ltd.
         2006</a> and may not be reproduced.


         This second page is <a rel="license"
         href="http:/
/www.example2.com/copyright>copyright Example2 Ltd.
         2006</a> and is used by permission.

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