indentifier

Identifier is, Per the straw man[1]:

 > An (not necessarily globally unique) identifier, such
as a
 > cite-key, pubmed ID number, or simply the reference
number
 > or string within a publication ([1] or [CLRS2001])

I wrote an hCite export template for BibDesk*, and used the 

identifier (cite-key)
as the id attribute on the root element. I'll argue that
`identifier`  
is not data
that needs to be accessible to humans, and we already have a
semantic  
equivalent
in HTML.

Here's an example. The class="book" is just a CSS
hook to differentiate
books and articles:

     <cite class="book hcite"
id="Lippmann:1997fk">
         <span class="creator vcard">
             <span class="fn n">
                 <span
class="family-name">Lippman</span>,
                 <span
class="given-name">Walter</span>.
             </span>
         </span>
         <span class="title">Public
Opinion</span>
         <span class="publisher vcard">
             <span class="adr">
                 <span class="locality
region">New York</span>:
             </span>
             <span class="fn org">Free
Press</span>
         </span>
         <span
class="date-published">1997</span>.
     </cite

Comments?

* The template is a total hack and needs to be updated.
Contact me
   if you'd like to see it in it's current state.

[1]: http://microfo
rmats.org/wiki/citation- 
brainstorming#Working_straw_schema
-- 
Ryan Cannon

Interactive Developer
MSI Student, School of Information
University of Michigan
http://RyanCannon.com



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On 2/21/07, Ryan Cannon <ryanryancannon.com> wrote:
> Identifier is, Per the straw man[1]:
>
>  > An (not necessarily globally unique) identifier,
such as a
>  > cite-key, pubmed ID number, or simply the
reference number
>  > or string within a publication ([1] or
[CLRS2001])

--- i'm not sure exactly when/where that explaination came
from, but i
would also include things like ISBN, ISSN as identifiers.

> I wrote an hCite export template for BibDesk*, and used
the
> identifier (cite-key)
> as the id attribute on the root element. I'll argue
that `identifier`
> is not data
> that needs to be accessible to humans, and we already
have a semantic
> equivalent
> in HTML.

--- i think identifiers such as ISBN are valuable as
human-readable data.

> Comments?

---  KEYS for things like BibTeX are not globally unique,
but unique
only to the bibtext file. This can be generated by any
transforming
application and are not needed in the mark-up. But KEYS are
not the
same as IDENTIFIERS. Identifiers should be human-readable
because
these are used to uniquely identify for find the object in a
physical
world. Things like key-value-pairs are machines use only and
shouldn't
be part of hCite.

-brian


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On 21/02/07, Ryan Cannon <ryanryancannon.com> wrote:
> Identifier is, Per the straw man[1]:
>
>  > An (not necessarily globally unique) identifier,
such as a
>  > cite-key, pubmed ID number, or simply the
reference number
>  > or string within a publication ([1] or
[CLRS2001])
>
> I wrote an hCite export template for BibDesk*, and used
the
> identifier (cite-key)
> as the id attribute on the root element. I'll argue
that `identifier`
> is not data
> that needs to be accessible to humans, and we already
have a semantic
> equivalent
> in HTML.

Apologies if this has already been discussed (I'm fairly new
to the
list) but what about the DOI (Digital Object Identifier) for
academic
papers, where it exists? I mention it as I work for an
academic
publisher.
http://www.doi.org/

Best regards,

Tim
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