Re: rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have ex

Let me post a concrete example in this arena, and maybe
someone can
come up with some suggestions.

Let's say your company has an internal version of
delicious.

The URLs look like this:

http
://dogear.example.com/html?tag=collaboration

How do you tag this using rel tag?

If one of the fundamental principles of microformats is the
ability to
add microformats to existing web pages, how does it work
with existing
tagspaces that don't conform?

And please don't say "harass the developer of the
application." That's
being done. The fact remains that the website is already
out, and
that's not an easy thing to do.

And also, please don't say "use an external
tagspace" The tag might be
an internal only product or a codename, so the tagspace
belongs inside
the company.

Suggestions?

Mike Kaply
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Mike Kaply wrote:
> The URLs look like this:
>
> http
://dogear.example.com/html?tag=collaboration
>
> How do you tag this using rel tag?
>
> If one of the fundamental principles of microformats is
the ability to
> add microformats to existing web pages, how does it
work with existing
> tagspaces that don't conform?
>
> Suggestions?

Obviously, you're the only one that can evaluate your
situation; if you 
want to make your application work with rel-tag, you need a
conforming 
tag-space. The easiest thing to do would be to set up a
redirect that 
takes URLs of the form 
<
http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/collaboration> and
maps them to 
existing URLs of the form 
<http://dogear.example.com/html?tag=collaboration>.
Then link to the 
former when using rel-tag. This should be very simple to set
up in most 
web servers and will help you transition to using the new,
nicely named 
tagspace. ~D


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On Mon, February 26, 2007 11:53 am, Mike Kaply wrote:
> ... please don't say "use an external
tagspace" The tag might be
> an internal only product or a codename, so the tagspace
belongs
> inside the company.

This actually relates to an issue I've been dealing with.

I have a bunch of places where I want to use rel-tag, but I
don't want to
send users sailing off to Technorati or wherever. The spec
says:

   The destination of a rel="tag" hyperlink is
required to be a
   tag space (a place that collates or defines tags) ...

The general behavior that I want is to make the tag a link
to a search
results page that lists similarly-tagged items. You can see
this at, for
example:

    http://sexworkersproject.org/publications/arch
ives/factsheets/2005

This is an index page for a set of documents and the tags
for the
documents (and by extension, the page) are shown in a gray
box at the end
of the page; clicking on any tag takes you to a page listing
all documents
containing that tag. (This may look a little weird on IE6;
I'm still
dealing with some of the usual IE CSS rendering issues).

My question is whether the search results page can be said
to 'collate'
the tags in the sense that the spec intends.

Opinions?

Angus

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