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OT: Free Andy Mabbet!
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2007-03-19 09:53:56
Hi all,

With only two weeks left in Lent, I still haven't done
enough  
penance, so I figure I need to up the ante. 

I didn't see any response to my governance proposal <http://urlx.org/ 
microformats.org/56ce1>, so let me make a more specific
request.  I  
for one fully supported the decision by the list
administrators to  
place Andy under moderation, given his behavior at the time.
However,  
Andy has since done a heroic job of making many useful
contributions  
despite the painful constraints he's been forced to live
under; and,  
as far as I know, he's avoiding commenting in an off-topic
manner.

Therefore, I believe that the administrators ought to
either:

a) remove his moderation constraint

or

b) publicly state why they are not removing it

I am all for strong leadership, but I also believe it must
be  
publicly accountable to avoid degenerating into tyranny.

Does anyone else agree?

Respectfully yours,
-- Ernie Prabhakar

P.S.  Again, I apologize if this is off-topic for this list,
but I  
couldn't find any better place to air my concerns, which is
why I  
think we need a dedicated list for such matters

http:/
/microformats.org/wiki/governance-issues

If anyone can suggest a better mechanism, please let me
know.


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Re: OT: Free Andy Mabbet!
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2007-03-19 10:03:12
I concur.

On 3/19/07, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernieopendarwin.org> wrote:
>
> Therefore, I believe that the administrators ought to
either:
>
> a) remove his moderation constraint
>
> or
>
> b) publicly state why they are not removing it
>
> I am all for strong leadership, but I also believe it
must be
> publicly accountable to avoid degenerating into
tyranny.
>
> Does anyone else agree?

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Re: OT: Free Andy Mabbet!
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2007-03-19 10:06:58
"Dr. Ernie Prabhakar" <drernieopendarwin.org> writes:

> Does anyone else agree?

I do.

-- 
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2007-03-22 16:37:26
Hi all,

On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:
> Therefore, I believe that the administrators ought to
either:
> a) remove his moderation constraint
> 	or
> b) publicly state why they are not removing it
> http:/
/microformats.org/wiki/governance-issues

On Mon Mar 19 07:34:50 PST 2007, Tantek Çelik wrote:
> I've created a wiki page to track opinions on this
discussion offlist:
>
>  http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-list-unmoderation

>
> Please add your input there, and do not follow-up/reply
to this  
> thread.

I appreciate Tantek's indulgence for my off-topic post, and
his  
prompt response.  However, despite the overwhelmingly
positive vote,  
Andy's moderation does not appear to have been removed, nor
has any  
explanation been given.

Again, I fully believe in the good intentions of the
leadership, and  
respect the busyness of their schedules. However,
independent of  
their position on Andy, I feel they owe *the community* a
little more  
respect for our expressed opinion.

Then again, maybe that's just me.  Let me know (one way or
the other)  
at:

http://microformats.org/wiki/governance-issues#Petition

In deference to Tantek's wishes, please follow up there (on
the wiki)  
rather than here (on email).

Sorry for the interruption. We now return you to your
regularly  
scheduled hCard.

Penitently yours,
-- Ernie P.

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