Re: Best practice for the abbr pattern

On 4/27/07 10:47 AM, "Dr. Ernie Prabhakar"
<ernest.prabhakargmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> On Apr 27, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Jeremy Keith wrote:
>> However, the datetime can also be written with
dashes and colons
>> like this:
>> 
>> title="2007-03-12T17:00:00"
>> 
>> 
http://microformats.org/wiki/datetime-design-pattern
>> 
>> Would everyone agree that, for the sake of screen
reader users, we
>> should update the wiki to strongly encourage this
more verbose
>> version of datetimes and strongly discourage the
contracted version?
> 
> Can you confirm that:
> 
> a) This will in fact solve the screen reader problem

That's much too big a request ;)

It's also unnecessary.

As long as there is improvement, it is worth the change.

And the improvement is reading it as "two thousand
seven [pause] three
[pause]... " etc. rather than  "twenty million
...".



> b) This still conforms with all the relevant W3C
recommendations

ISO8601 is an ISO standard, not W3C.

That being said, the W3C *note* (not recommendation) date
and time which is
a profile (subset) of ISO8601:

http://www.w3.org/
TR/NOTE-datetime

actually recommends using the "-" and
":" separators explicitly.

I will add an informative reference accordingly to hCalendar
for better
reference findability.


> If so, then I'd agree with you, as the hyphenated
version is also
> more human-readable, and thus seems in keeping with
microformat
> philosophy.

Yes the "hyphenated date is more human readable than
unhyphenated" argument
has been before, and as you say, is preferred per
microformat principles.

Thanks,

Tantek

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In message <C2578799.8D08E%tantekcs.stanford.edu>, Tantek
Çelik
<tantekcs.stanford.edu> writes

>> b) This still conforms with all the relevant W3C
recommendations
>
>ISO8601 is an ISO standard, not W3C.

I rather suspect that this was a reference to the WCAG-WAI
recommendations, not to any date-related format.

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