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RE: microformats for normal people, like my mum
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United States
2007-06-27 19:36:08
Alex Faaborg wrote[edited for chronology]:
> On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Thom Shannon wrote:
> > Yeah, exactly that kind of thing.
> >
> > A lot of the power of MF reminds me of Smart Tags
in Office XP,
> > maybe we could look to the way that was marketed
and some 
> of the UI  
> > stuff it did was really good.
> >
> > IntelliTags
> > Infolets
> > Infobits
> > Open Smart Tags? 
> >
> I'm a little wary of associating microformats too
closely with Smart  
> Tags or IntelliSense given the massive public outcry
Microsoft  
> received when they considered including the feature in
IE6.  There  
> are obviously some very important distinctions between
the two  
> systems, (microformats are open and extensible, and web
site 
> creators  
> place microformats in their pages instead of the
browser injecting  
> them).  But these distinctions may be subtle enough to
cause some  
> initial confusion if the user facing name is similar.


I would suggest that uF aren't about the formating or the
tagging. It's about the data.

Perhaps SmartData.

I'm not sure I like that, but it's sort of what uF does for
you. Dumb data can't be heard/seen. Dumb data stuck in HTML
is almost
useless for augmenting the browsing experience or
assimilating into the semantic web.

SmartData is instantly available to apps in a way they can
actually use. SmartData in HTML allows standard javascript
and browser
plug-ins to do smart things.

For me, the question is what does the non-developer end-user
perceive when they see the "SmartData" icon?  How
does that relate to
their world? It isn't about the formatting or the HTML
tags... Those are things that end-users don't really care
about or even
conceptuallize.  

When Grandma visits MovieFone.com and it has a
"SmartData" icon, I think maybe it will eventually
make sense that clicking on the
icon lets her add that movie to her Outlook calendar...

Note also that I would say SmartData is any POSH that is
understood by the client app in a smart way. uF are the
broadest library of
POSH, but certainly not the only option.

SmartText might also work.


$0.02 worth of product branding.

-j


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Re: microformats for normal people, like my mum
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Australia
2007-06-27 23:27:09
>> >
>> > A lot of the power of MF reminds me of Smart
Tags in Office XP,
>> > maybe we could look to the way that was
marketed and some
>> of the UI
>> > stuff it did was really good.


I haven't seen the Smart Tags stuff (where do I find it?)...
could it be 
somehow adapted for use with microformats?
... or would a tool to convert between them be useful?



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