Re: Re: Voluntary Public Domain declarations now enabled on the wiki

On 7/20/07 4:35 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

> I applaud him for doing so; but, at the time of
writing, copyright in
> both hCalendar and hCard is still claimed, in part, by
"Technorati,
> Inc.", by virtue of their being one of the three
listed authors,

Technorati is not listed as an author, but merely my (and a
few others')
affiliation at the time of authoring the spec(s).

However, I can very much see how that could be
misinterpreted so I have
edited the affiliation text of the specifications of which I
am an
author/editor/contributor to be in the style used by W3C
specifications:

 Author (Affiliation[s]), ...

> (Interestingly, Tantek says he's released the Geo and
Adr specs into the
> public domain, but Technorati are credited as either
co-author or his
> employer (the designation is not clear) - have they
relinquished their
> rights?)

I have clarified the affiliation per the above stylistic
edit, and yes, all
the work I have done on microformats when employed by
Technorati was done
very much in and for the community and I have taken the
extra step of
releasing my work into the public domain to be even more
explicit.

I continue to encourage all microformats community members
to release their
contributions to the Public Domain.  Doing so without
waiting for any other
particular conditions demonstrates a strong commitment to
contributing to
the public good and sets a good example for others as well.

Thanks,

Tantek

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In message <C2C6A18B.924CA%tantekcs.stanford.edu>, Tantek
Çelik 
<tantekcs.stanford.edu> writes

>On 7/20/07 4:35 PM, "Andy Mabbett"
<andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> I applaud him for doing so; but, at the time of
writing, copyright in
>> both hCalendar and hCard is still claimed, in part,
by "Technorati,
>> Inc.", by virtue of their being one of the
three listed authors,
>
>Technorati is not listed as an author, but merely my
(and a few 
>others') affiliation at the time of authoring the
spec(s).
>
>However, I can very much see how that could be
misinterpreted so I have 
>edited the affiliation text of the specifications of
which I am an 
>author/editor/contributor to be in the style used by W3C
specifications

Thank you for the clarification. I'm unclear as to why such
an 
affiliation is relevant, if you were not acting on behalf of
Technorati 
at the time of writing the spec (your connection to them is,
after all, 
mentioned on your user page, should anyone be interested),
but that's 
now incidental.

The hCalendar and hCard specs now each have two authors (you
and Brain 
Suda), both of whom have kindly released your work into PD -
so the 
statement that "Microformats copyright ... statements
apply." and "This 
specification is (C) 2004-2007 by the author" are now
either 
contradictory, or simply wrong. Please will you amend the
spec to clear 
up that ambiguity, as you have done on Geo and Adr?

I take it that you're also aware that making such a spec PD
means that 
there's no recourse, other than community disapprobation, if
someone 
should republish it, with extra, removed, or changed
properties?

>all the work I have done on microformats when employed
by Technorati 
>was done very much in and for the community and I have
taken the extra 
>step of releasing my work into the public domain to be
even more 
>explicit.

Doing so is laudable and I look forward to seeing
the authors of other published microformats doing likewise.

-- 
Andy Mabbett

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