microformats for dummies

Hey all,

I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it
brings to
people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html tags
are. Normally
I would explain it as adding semantics  or ontologies to
your html
tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd that
doesn't have
any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and don't
know what a
HTML tag is in the first place.
I could talk about how adding "keywords" to
webpages, invisible to the
human eye but visible to the "machine" so that it
can help us
accomplish tasks and find data more quickly but that doesn't
sound
very good.

If you have any ideas where I could start I would appreciate
greatly.

thanx in advance

Pat
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Pat,

> I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it
brings to
> people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html
tags are. Normally
> I would explain it as adding semantics  or ontologies
to your html
> tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd
that doesn't have
> any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and
don't know what a
> HTML tag is in the first place

point them to this


http://www
.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M

j
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That's an awesome video, John!

Which makes me think that we should ask Lee Lefevre really
nicely
whether he would put together a 'Microformats In Plain
English' video
for the community? Usually he charges big bucks, but he's a
community
guy and may recognize the value in this.

For his former work:

http://ww
w.commoncraft.com/video-googledocs
http://w
ww.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english

http://www.commoncraft.com/video-wikis-plain-english

Tara

On 10/11/07, John Allsopp <johnwestciv.com> wrote:
> Pat,
>
> > I was wondering how to explain microformats and
what it brings to
> > people that have no knowledge of HTML and what
html tags are. Normally
> > I would explain it as adding semantics  or
ontologies to your html
> > tags. But I have to present microformats to a
crowd that doesn't have
> > any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and
don't know what a
> > HTML tag is in the first place
>
> point them to this
>
>
> http://www
.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M
>
> j
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Tara,

That  would be awesome. I have made a shy attempt at it
(http://andr3.net/blog/
post/104) but my screencasting skills are so
very poor! I will leave it to the pros. It would be awesome
to have
something like those examples for microformats. (and
non-english
speaking folks) From my own experience, it's not enough to
do a video
demo. It should be engaging and interesting... so that it
would
circulate on blogs, emails, etc.

And Patrick, I would start with something along the lines of
that
video. Introduce the general concept, which is to bring out
the data
in the pages. It's not just "pages" anymore. We
can extract pieces of
relevant data from some of them... All you, the users, need
to worry
about is how you can use this to your advantage. (go on
explaining how
it's done today)

Leave out the technical jargon as much as possible 

Cheers,
André Luís

On 10/12/07, Tara Hunt <horsepigcowgmail.com> wrote:
> That's an awesome video, John!
>
> Which makes me think that we should ask Lee Lefevre
really nicely
> whether he would put together a 'Microformats In Plain
English' video
> for the community? Usually he charges big bucks, but
he's a community
> guy and may recognize the value in this.
>
> For his former work:
>
> http://ww
w.commoncraft.com/video-googledocs
> http://w
ww.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english
> 
http://www.commoncraft.com/video-wikis-plain-english
>
> Tara
>
> On 10/11/07, John Allsopp <johnwestciv.com> wrote:
> > Pat,
> >
> > > I was wondering how to explain microformats
and what it brings to
> > > people that have no knowledge of HTML and
what html tags are. Normally
> > > I would explain it as adding semantics  or
ontologies to your html
> > > tags. But I have to present microformats to a
crowd that doesn't have
> > > any knowledge of HTML or programing in
general and don't know what a
> > > HTML tag is in the first place
> >
> > point them to this
> >
> >
> > http://www
.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M
> >
> > j
> > _______________________________________________
> > microformats-discuss mailing list
> > microformats-discussmicroformats.org
> > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
ts-discuss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> tara 'miss rogue' hunt
> co-founder & CMO
> Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com)
> blog: www.horsepigcow.com
> phone: 415-694-1951
> fax: 415-727-5335
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Thanx a lot for your tips, I forgot to mention I can't use
visual
tools for my presentation (yes that sucks) so if you have
something
more textual keep it coming 

I did a little fugly screencast a while ago about
microformats here:
http://
ascian.fr/screencasts/microformats.ogg
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Tara,

> That's an awesome video, John!

thanks, but it's all Ian's work

> Which makes me think that we should ask Lee Lefevre
really nicely
> whether he would put together a 'Microformats In Plain
English' video
> for the community? Usually he charges big bucks, but
he's a community
> guy and may recognize the value in this.
>
> For his former work:
>
> http://ww
w.commoncraft.com/video-googledocs
> http://w
ww.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english
> 
http://www.commoncraft.com/video-wikis-plain-english

they look well cool! Great idea

j

>
> Tara
>
> On 10/11/07, John Allsopp <johnwestciv.com> wrote:
>> Pat,
>>
>>> I was wondering how to explain microformats and
what it brings to
>>> people that have no knowledge of HTML and what
html tags are.  
>>> Normally
>>> I would explain it as adding semantics  or
ontologies to your html
>>> tags. But I have to present microformats to a
crowd that doesn't  
>>> have
>>> any knowledge of HTML or programing in general
and don't know what a
>>> HTML tag is in the first place
>>
>> point them to this
>>
>>
>> http://www
.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M
>>
>> j
>> _______________________________________________
>> microformats-discuss mailing list
>> microformats-discussmicroformats.org
>> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microforma
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> tara 'miss rogue' hunt
> co-founder & CMO
> Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com)
> blog: www.horsepigcow.com
> phone: 415-694-1951
> fax: 415-727-5335
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